Where is the love for the community?

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I play classic mostly. I rarely see any blues or much inforation about the game in classic forums. I miss the days when Ghostcrawler and other representatives would be there weekly discussing varius issues with us the community.

Also Classic BC is bug ridden. Loads of bugs that was not even there in classic era.

Annoying details and stuff like lots of missing animations. Small things like sounds missing (no sound from lamps around darkshore, teldrassil etc…) thees ambient sounds were a almost iconic part of questing in those zones.

Other stuff:
Druid has no fighting animation under water … tabbards have this belt bug,

Rage and many other animations (like shaman weapons enchants) are also not working. No anmiation there anylonger… small details. But so many small details are now wrong.

What used to be a polished product is no longer that, and with no communication I feel that you Blizzard are not caring about us as customers. Even Blizzcon is cancelled.

For 16 years I have payed montly for more than one account but never before have I felt that you neglect us more than now.

See Brewfest… was a rage because there was NO information. And then comes Hallows end… are there more information this time? NO…

Sorry for the rant, but a little dissapointed.

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Hunter with quiver. Weapons disappear visually ALL THE TIME.
Ammo pouch, all good. Only happens with quiver.

Cheers Blizz :slight_smile:

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I thought classic players liked the rudimentary experience combined with the hardcore aspect of having to figure out stuff on their own?
jokes aside, blizz only added classic servers to cash in on the nostalgia people feel towards an old game. one that’s not special today and not worth to buy or develop properly. “but but private servers were so popula-” yes, because they’re free.

I think that was a mistake, because now we’ll have threads such as this one who interpret it as a doomsday sign.
“maybe they’re so deep in … they can’t even think of anything to say to mitigate it if the question comes up”
“maybe there’s no content being developed so there’s nothing to showcase”

as a veteran player you should know blizz is a hardcore advocate of the ostrich politics

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If it looks and sounds like a duck, its probably just a duck - Classic release padded the numbers for end BfA.
It was a really big deal at the time, initially people came back for it in droves.

I wasn’t going to go with it until I got calls, FB messages and texts from in-game friends and (old, almost forgotten) rl friends who were all coming back just to relive ‘old youthful days’.
I knew 8 people who subscribed and played Classic at least until AQ release - they have all since stopped and no one went to retail.

The community must love itself first in order to know what ‘dev love’ would look like. At the moment the community only looks set on becoming more and more fractured.

Of the myriad hundreds of (former) WoW ‘stars’, streamers and influencers out there, how many actually try and produce constructive videos?
Beyond the few related to Wowhead and IcyVeins and again the few PvP guides, the ones with the most hits and comments all display and highlight outrage and blame.

Jokes are nearly always at the expense of other gamers/people and whether it’s about fruity wokeness, cancel culture (right and left, same difference) or the latest dev tweet to hate on – the key is outrage for the sake of outrage itself.

Looking at this from the business market perspective, Blizzard’s WoW was may have been a great cash cow 10-12 years ago but in the past year’s games like Candy Crush (and mobile games) bring the company similar revenue with much larger profit margins and (crucially) almost zero ‘perpetual dev-headaches’.

No people shouting at you for going right and then left, no one trying to passive-aggressive guilt-trip you to nerfing or buffing a class. No one projecting the frustrations of their own lives onto whatever it is dev A, B or C said in an interview or tweet.

Do I think Bobby Kotick needs a new yacht? Hell no!

As with all giant companies, I’m sure there are plenty of management grifters and backroom handshakes but the company restructuring now is a good thing in my eyes.
At the very least it will not be more of the same, whether the difference is something that will produce something ‘great’ down the line is something that remains to be seen.

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With the amount of abuse the devs get on a daily basis it’s really no surprise they don’t show up that often anymore.

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Now whose fault is that again? Complaining about negative reaction to negative things is like blaming George Floyd for the fact that so many people were outraged (obviously it’s a less important topic than literal life or death, but the principle is the same).

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Yes, it was weird for sure but its done and dusted now, doesn’t affect me or my game play anyway.

For those of us in the EU, the changing of ‘nude’ paintings was bizarre and a seemingly nonsensical useless thing to spend time on but you also have to keep in mind that its an American company and things like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXXVIII_halftime_show_controversy

Were talked about in the greater press for an exaggeratedly long time, this would have been a complete nonissue subject for Europeans.

Showing a female breast, bum cheek w/e nudity flash are not sensational or interesting talking points to get outraged by for most Europeans.

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Considering their recent history I’m quite fine not getting any “love” from the Blizz dev’s…

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Then I’m sorry; you’re in the wrong forums.

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Yeah, well, they made a special Chinese version to be in line with China’s specific censorship rules, there is no reason why all this BS can’t stay in America (and even there, it’s only a vocal minority on Twitter who is outraged). They also explained this is not a reaction to any feedback, but rather they as developers want to express their “values”. Thus, they deserve every criticism (and also to be fired after WoW inevitably fails and never to find another job in the indusrty…)

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China is a yay or nay market though. If they didn’t change anything they would have simply been barred from the market.

A lot of EU - US stuff is synonymous with each other, a lot of our consumer behavior is almost identical in terms of pattern per social-economic standing.

Greater Asia, China, Middle East and Africa (maybe minus South Africa) have quantifiably very clearly different spending habits, especially when you factor in social standing and local culture.
It is what it is now.

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it would take a team with passion for this game to make something worthwhile now…

and who in their right mind is crazy enough to be passionate about WoW in light of everything surrounding it in recent times…

maybe there is people out there but they got very big shoes to fill in order to produce something to win people over again.

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Love from the devs tends to end in lawsuits so no thanks.

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testing…
https://tenor.com/view/ouch-hurt-netflix-scream-gif-16426346

oh, obviously not promoted to lvl 3 then…:stuck_out_tongue:

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^^

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your animated gif reflects perfectly the love of the wow community in the game

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frizzle does have a nack for good gifs

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