Which specs are actually too complex to play?

Ofc there is some level of individualism, but in this case it’s very clear, because some specs have a clear logic, and other specs just happen to sim the highest in a way, and if you deviate from the sim, you do low damage, because that’s how the numbers are balanced. That’s especially true for arms, because so much damage is just mortal strike. If you apply logic, you will fail on that spec. If you follow the guide brainlessly, you will succeed.

Ret might be very easy, but Ret is a spec that is completely logical. You can do your rotation well without reading any guide, and the deviation between the mathematically optimal way to build holy power and a slightly less efficient way is not crazily high, so it’s not that punishing.

Despite that so called 10.0.5 revamp, yeah, arms is neither fun nor engaging.

I mean, if a defensive spell like IP is being used as part of the offensive rotation, then something’s kinda wrong. At least it’s outside of GCD, but in my mind, arms has mostly been about dumping rage with damaging spells to fish for overpowered procs (Since Legion).

It’s probably because we’ve been used to buff mortal strike through overpower from Legion to SL, so that kinda feels bad now, alongside not using the iconic dumper XD

As a fury warrior main I can say with confidence we have too many buttons. One is plenty!

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What about Assa rogues is being complex?

Assa rogue used to be my favorite rogue spec, now its a ton of buttons to do very lil dmg. sub was quite fun as well. now it i cant stand any of the rogue specs due to it being a absolute disco with the combo point CD reduction, it just feels clunky.

It was one of those specs (like feral druid) that was incredibly weak in M+ before the DF rework. I haven’t played it since the rework - played sub a little bit, but haven’t really played the rogue much at all because the druid is too much fun. It still doesn’t look particularly great in AOE with Indiscriminate Carnage being on a 45 second CD, but I can’t say it looks complex.

It’s not complex.

But it is badly tuned, especially in aoe.

Its one of those specs that requires quite a bit of start up before it gets going, quite a few bleeds/poisons to manage before you pop carnage and if not done in the correct order it deals significantly less dmg.

People who enjoy rogue in PvE can probably enjoy Tour de France.

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Cycling isn’t complex. It just requires fitness. At that level, it requires extreme levels of fitness.

Way too many abilities that do little to 0 damage. Managing energy as a resource + tracking all the dots.

It may be easy for you, but overall, assa rogue is quite a complex spec.

Energy isnt an issue. Especially if coupled with tea. You track two dots. Three if I count sepsis. Four if we include CT during AoE. You keep 1 shiv always ready for either sepsis or deathmark. Slice and Dice is used once and then being forgotten. Like the most “complex” aspect about assa is using sepsis and utilizing its uptime properly for max sepsis garrote uptime.

And while Assa doesnt have burst, it does have sustained dmg and is one of the best ST specs right now.

Yes… that’s not the point.
I mean it’s boring af; I guess you’ve never heard the jokes about tour de france being the most boring thing to watch on this entire earth.
That’s why I made the joke.
PvE rogue is as boring as tour de france.
It’s a class that just asks for PvP.

It has its moments tbh.

But I guess that also goes for certain aforementioned specs and classes. :>

Arc mage definitely .

I would say disc priest , at least if u compare it to rest of healers .

And same could apply with brm, compared to rest of tanks

Feral Druid.

Rofl Rogues are made for lowbrained players, like in Zelda you receive bomb for the first time and you use on the lizard one Boss.

Check how hard is to play Warrior protection:

#showtooltip Revenge
/startattack
/cast Avatar
/cast Shield block
/castsequence Revenge, Thunder Clap

Edit

The worst is mage: class based on intellect which can be played thunderclapping the keyboard.

There’s no accounting for taste, I suppose.

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