Which stat is more important?

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Hi all,

Got an question for you guys,

I’m playing as arcane mage, doing build for pvp strictly

On the web icy veins i can see that there is advice to prioritise for arcane mage pvp stats : intellect, haste, versality, mastery, crit

I had my build (pvp, for honor) done based on versality and crit therefore I went and bought gear for honor to prioritise haste and versality ( intellect is each item so im skipping it )

When I was building my character based on crit and versality my stats looked like this ( stats from BG, so item level 411 )

Critical strike: 20%
Haste: 8%
Versality: 29%

Spells cast time:
Radiant Spark - 1,4 sec
Arcane Blast - 2,1 sec
Arcane Surge - 2,3 sec
Polymorph: 1,6 sec

Now build based on haste and versality ( again for pvp, same items just haste and versality), stats:
Crit: 7%
Haste:23%
Versality:30%

Spell cast time:
Radiant Spark - 1,2 sec ( 0,2 sec faster)
Arcane Blast - 1,8 sec (0,3 sec faster)
Arcane Surge - 2 sec (0,3 sec faster)
Polymorph: 1,4 sec ( 0,2 sec faster)

For pretty much getting no crit at all I’m getting 0,2 sec faster? is it wrong or should be like this?

Thank you in advance for your help.

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For db&sheep/ring of frost combo you need haste. Most of arcane mages build haste, you can watch it in ladder, too. There are also some cheesy/mastery build. They definitely work but in that way when you can oneshot somebody from start or loose the game because you can’t cast anything after. Crit and mastery is more high risk/high reward when haste gives you more stability.

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Yeah, i get you but being fair for price of 0,2 sec im not really convinced does its worth sacrifice crit… i mean even with option of low haste im still technically speaking able to cast(also got Time Wrap) , will just take bit longer to do it , also like y said it all depend on strat :smiley: im more like: lets get burst and kill guy before he realise what happened , i know if enemy interrupt it / something goes wrong it might be hard but its just risk as for each strat :smiley:

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On arena?

You’re free to use playstyle you like. There are some arcanes on top of ladder who use cheesy mastery/crit build for oneshot. Why not if you having fun. But it’s very risky playstyle and they can counter you easy since you can’t make 100% db-sheep without haste (they have window to react) and it’s harder to cast your burst (even 0,1s can be win condition sometimes). But for more in-depth information I can advise you to visit mage discord and ask all your questions there. Experienced and skilled mages are there, not on forum (I mean that mage discord is special place when you can meet them)

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Nah, BG i mean, so far im having fun on BG, soon will go to arenas ( i know timewrap doesnt work there ( shame btw XD XD))

I know 0,1 sometimes may make difference but its just too low reward for no crit if you ask me :stuck_out_tongue: if the arcane blast would be like 1,5 sec - then yeah, make it worth

Cheers for advice about discord, where can i find discord for mages?

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depends how you look at it, for example if 0.3 from 1.5 its 20% improvement 20% is a lot …

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You can get up to 12% crit from talents (Overflowing Energy, Tome of Rhonin) and up to 14% haste (Tome of Antonidas, Arcane Tempo).
As of now in PvP I’d say Haste is still your most important stat, lets you cast more often and faster, when it comes to your burst it will hit hard anyway, and you wont cast Arcane Blast with no arcane charges anyway (and you can use PoM for it so it cannot be interrupted)

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