I was like that with the Grand Hunts waiting for it to hit the right zone.
Ye, and they are still much fewer required than the storms :s
Fortunately for me I did those parts ages ago.
Mh, I can say the same about a lot of things — I just wish they actually made these less of a hassle.
Things shouldn’t be this dictating and parasitic of IRL time, no matter if I have done it personally or not; I still dislike it.
I can’t say I found them to be terrible achievements. I just did them at the time.
I’ve been pleasantly surprised how easy it has been to do the missing achievements.
I can say, Grand hunt and flying are IMMENSELY easier than storm hunting is predatory of your time.
They used to spawn 2 at a time (or more), always 1 up, now - its just one.
So, I disagree: They aren’t easy.
They are extremely time restricted and dictate your time if you are still missing the “right” things.
I can say that I never compared the two achievements. I merely made a remark relating to watching wowhead.
Most of the achievements for Taivan are not hard to complete IMO. Some are more time consuming than others.
Some of the achievements you need to do for this meta are borderline insane or infuriating. Like looting the treasures with complete RNG timers on their requirements spawning and what not…
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Sure, it just sounds a bit dismissive!
Look at Wowhead front page right now — we have storms marked again, and it just says
The Azure Span, Earth (First of all; earth is not a achievement requirement - and one has to then know this means Sandstorm)
on a (right now) 19 min timer.
Then it says “1h 19m Upcoming”
Sooo, you never have a clue which one is coming up, and there are SOOOO many that it can be.
Thaldrazus has not been up for ages.
It’s really terrible.
So saying they are not hard is very dismissive of the one fact that Storms alone are 100% dictative of your time, and 1 storm up every 1.30min, and the amount of different storms we have is … a lot.
And you might need the right ones…
The one you need might only be up at monday, 1am, and then not return again in a week - once again, on a terrible hour.
You happened to complete one of the most RNG + Time consuming achievement part, when they used to be super active and have more than 1 storm up at a time.
Not all of us did.
That symbol is Sand no? Or you’re just finding it confusing that Earth is sand?
The task itself is not hard, the issue you are having is with RNG. I agree that waiting for a specific zone is frustrating.
If you hover over it, it says Earth.
It’s an “earth” symbol.
It should 100% spawn more storms, more frequent.
Solving it would be having 1 storm active in each zone, all the time.
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Yes I see your confusion is associating the four elements with the achievement which uses Firestorms (fire)/Sandstorms (earth)/Snowstorms (water)/Thunderstorms (air). I didn’t find it too hard to work out but maybe that’s just a language barrier.
I don’t think you’ll have all four up but maybe if they reverted the patch change that gave us just one. Or they need to make it rotate better or give it a set pattern.
I mean… why name it Earth instead of Sandstorm…?
Its not wheter its hard or not, its just unecessary.
It’s like saying “Everyone, please bring a handful of earth with you to work” – and then when people show up with EARTH, a mix of maybe sand all the way to pure dirt, they go “No we ment specifically Sand”…
Can’t you see the uncessary use of words here?
It would fix the issue if all 4 zones had 1 up, making it a lot friendlier to peoples hours, rather than having to guard WoWhead/Ingame to check if X is up 24/7
Again; I understand the seat of having done something and not caring.
I used to be like that too.
Nowadays I have an easier time putting myself in others shoes and see a problem, even if its a problem I have personally overcome, by sheer stupidity/anger/force eventho it could be made easier / more user friendly.
This is wow not IRL and four elements and four equivalents, it doesn’t really compare. It’s not rocket science to me but clearly it is a problem to you and that’s fine, you can complain and feel it’s an issue.
You were the one who picked on my comment that it’s not hard. I never brought that in to the discussion.
This is nothing to do with not caring, I spend most of my time empathising with others but not all requests are reasonable. It’s to do with not over trivialising, there is already a certain level of trivialising it compared to doing it when current, we are stronger. So reverting back to the two zone system would be fair. Putting it up everywhere all the time isn’t. I also think a fair rotation would equally be a good solution. Then people could just work up when it’s next due up.
It’s not like the expansion is about to end there is a lot of time for people to still obtain these achievements.
Okay, so you are for arbitrary use of different words with nonsencial reason?
Why?
I didn’t “pick” at your comment, I pointed out that you sound dismissive…
You absolutely make it sound like the storm part was “easy” - and you even say it here: “Most of the achievements for Taivan are not hard to complete IMO.”
Your definition of Hard is probably based on Skill, and not Time; Both are equally valuable, however.
You are also suffering from the “I walked through a snowstorm, so youth should have to do that as well”-mindset, here…
Some things are just designed poorly, and you have to be able to see that.
It wouldn’t trivialise it to respect peoples hours, gatekeeping that is just silly and absolutely no empathy for people with different hours to play.
You and I both no-lifed the rewards in Plunderstorm… we’re not the type of players who I am speaking of here.
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You are upset with this achievement and directing that at me but it’s okay.
I never said the things you are claiming. You are making huge leaps in presuming stuff. We’ve all been there and RNG will always be a frustrating barrier.
Okay perhaps there is a massive issue here, somewhere, so I will attempt the newer way of breaking things down to maybe see where the missunderstanding has happened:
- I come into the topic and say Who is going for the Good Boi Taivain? - #61 by Náia-argent-dawn
- You answer with “I was like that with the Grand Hunts waiting for it to hit the right zone.”
- I say “Ye, and they are still much fewer required than the storms :s”
- You say “Fortunately for me I did those parts ages ago.”
– How is this not a dismissive comment on the issue at hand?
“I’m fortunate to have done it”
It’s just a bit moot of a comment to say unless you wish to actually come off as “better off”, if that makes sense.
Pretty much like saying “Fortunately for me, I have money” when someone says they can’t afford something.
It’s just… a bit rude.
I then say: “Mh, I can say the same about a lot of things — I just wish they actually made these less of a hassle.
Things shouldn’t be this dictating and parasitic of IRL time, no matter if I have done it personally or not; I still dislike it.”
Your answer to this is “I can’t say I found them to be terrible achievements. I just did them at the time. I have been pleasantly surprised how easy it has been to do the missing achievements”.
Okay — Again, “I have it easy”. Good for you…?
The ones you are missing are easier! I’m glad that’s the case for you, honestly, all achievements should be made with a fun spirit – not dread!
I also point out that you completed said achievement (Storms) when it was more active, more were up.
You then go on to point out how You don’t think achievements are Hard -
Again, dismissive of Hard being equal to Time, not only skill.
Not everyone can no-life and sit here, guarding storm timers.
And sadly, as I point out - some of them can be almost impossible, since the Game dictates when X is available.
Not everyone can be awake at 1am, for an easy example (as I made)
Then you dismiss my pointer of how it’s silly how they name the event on WoWhead something different than it is actually named in game / in achievement.
This argument is just… silly.
If it is a “Cake party” specfically, you really are just making a fuzz if you name it “Dessert party”.
It is not an important issue, - but it’s still dumb.
Then the argument is that making 1 storm up in Each zone is making it “Trivial”, again; I disagree.
It makes it more user friendly.
Two, at least - like it used to be - would be nice.
Four, like it should have been from the start, would be great.
To conclude:
I am not directing any of my “Upset”-ness at you, I am honestly just saying that you are sounding dismissive of actual issues, and a bit “I did it, so its fine” (I walked through storms as a kid, so kids nowadays should too).
Hope you understand.
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You are really reading too much in my comments mainly due to your frustrating.
You took a comment as dismissive that wasn’t. I sympathised with having to watch wowhead. I didn’t compare the two achievements beyond that and I commented I did the other achievement while it was current content. Many of us achievement hunters know that some things are easier to do while they are current. It’s not always the case. This is not dismissing anything. It’s an observation. It was not belittling your efforts or frustrations.
I do not think any of the achievements for Taivan are hard. RNG is not a difficulty IMO, but it can be frustrating. I’m aware of the change to one storm has made the rotation of storms awkward when you are waiting for a specific zone that isn’t coming up. Lots of achievements are orientated around something being the right thing across all sorts of expansions.
I don’t agree with your suggestion for a change for the reasons I gave. I think that is asking too much. But there is no point going in circles at this point.
I sympathised with you, you took it differently and that is just a misunderstanding. They happen.
Agree to disagree, in conclusion <3
And that is fine!
TLDR; We both agree, I believe (?) that things should be made more user friendly overall.
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