Which Class+Race lore wise are the strongest and weakest.
Heroes and players do not count. I’m talking about the run out of mill generic nameless class.
Like Orc Warrior for example are stronger than Nightelf warrior. Nighteleves lore wise are not very strong in comparison.
you can use close relatives as classes like Human footman = warrior and human Knight are also warriors.
And again Heroes should not be included. Don’t bring Thrall as shaman in the equation. should be any earth warden shamans or other factions.
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High Elf Darkranger imo.
Nathanos BM hunter
no heroes allowed.
I don’t think Darkrangers are that good. A demon hunter would easily beat them in 1 v 1 combat.
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I think it depends on race then.
Dwarven warriors are very strong from what I read.
What do you mean raw strenght is it power?
If it is raw strenght then what ever uses archers will need to be very strong.
But tauren uses tree trunks as clubs.
Tauren Death Knights are the strongest, imo. Death Knights maybe takes the nod due to magically-enhanced strength/stamina. Followed closely by orcs and dwarves of the same class. Those races as warriors are also up there.
Weakest? Gnome mage. Tiny, weak nerds.
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Undead warlock, their body is already a corspe so any side effect fel magic has on them is pretty null. Warlocks in general are strongest class lore wise.
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Probably Human Mages and Orc warlocks are the strongest.
For the weakest, I guess it’s something like Human hunters and Gnome priests?
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Death knights are pretty much just directly stronger than warriors and paladins and… warlocks are apparantly stronger than warriors…
Then death knights also have magic so i guess they are also more powerful than mages
So… that means druids are the strongest because they are the pinnacle of physical fitness despite sleeping all day and can just shapeshift making race irrelevant to their strength.
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Mages are up there in the top spot. If we could play mages who are anything like they are in lore (uncommon, extremely potent) they’d be OP. Remember when 100 Human mages and some Helf mages essentially destroyed the entirety of the Amani Empire in a single encounter?
It’s pretty difficult to imagine another class squaring up outside of a head on collision. The thing is mages have tools to avoid such anyway. The ability to teleport or turn invisible aren’t exactly reserved for heroic mages, so it’s kind of irrelevant how physically strong an opponent is because any mage (as fair as lore goes) can easily avoid melee combat.
Shadowpriests would also be up there given the ability to assault minds directly is super powerful. The game balances it for mechanical purposes so your mind being flayed is just a tickle. In truth that would probably incapacitate any target outright outside of super willpower individuals. But repeated assaults to the mind is not something I’m sure most individuals could stand excepting death knights.
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Blood elf mages probably. Spellcasters will always be more powerfull lore wise so a warlock or shadow priest could also make the spot.
And given that spellcasters are so powerfull a blood elf is op since lore wise their arcane torrent can silence others for a good while.
hmm maybe to help narrow things down,
let’s pick best class race combinations
Orc warrior seems to be the best warriors
Bloodelves mages seems fair to be the most powerful.
Orc warlocks probably best warlocks
NE Hunters would be best hunters.
Drenai paladins ?
troll Shamans ?
human Holy Priests
Pandarian monks
for Deathknights arthas mostly picked humans.
Druids are nightelves
Rogues… well i belive we have to pick based on spec.
assassins are orcs or humans SI7
Sub - Either NE or undead
I’m just listing what I think whos the best combinations.
for Undead Race in general they don’t stand a chance against Paladins.
Warlock are strong in the lore. but demon hunters can easily defeat warlocks.
Deathknights are also extremely strong. I don’t think a demon hunter can defeat a DK.
Druids are also powerful in the lore. so are mages …ugh too many options
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Warlock or Shadow Priest would be my guess. Not sure why people would say warriors, when we’ve seen enough warriors get slapped about by Warlocks lol. cough Legion cough
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If we go by the average representative of the class, then DK hands-down, followed by DH.
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Trolls are the strongest race thanks to their selective regenerative abilities. If you cut off their arm, they can grow it back in an hour or two. Including any major organs. If you shoot them with an arrow, providing they pull it out, the wound will seal immediately. They can’t bleed out (their already coagulated blood) and are resistant to almost all poisons for the same reason.
During the Troll Wars, Farstriders practiced chopping off their heads and burning their bodies because it was the only way to ensure they stayed down. If you cut them down, they would regenerate and then hunt you.
The reason Vol’Jin remained scarred is simply because he chose to, as a constant reminder. Trolls seem to have some conscious control over it. So any Troll class is by default stronger than any other race/class combo.
As for classes… It depends. Death Knights are in general stronger than any other class in direct combat. Providing they’re at least in full Saronite.
Demon Hunters can rival a DK, yet a Paladin and a Warlock would beat them (where they would lose to a DK). If a Rogue can sneak up on a DK, then they win, and probably win against every other class too.
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I agree with the stuff regarding Trolls, particularly Zandalari. If we go by the lore rather than the gameplay, Zandalari not only boast the typical regenerative properties of Trolls (which you’ve described really well) but they also have absolutely colossal strength, being able to lift their own body weight singled-handedly.
This suggests that squaring up to a Zandalari of any class would probably be a very daunting prospect. They can naturally regenerate pretty much most combat wounds within seconds outside of magical ones, their regeneration slows down the effects of disease, they’re extremely tall and even a magic practioner of the race could probably lift any other race and throw them, not to mention use that strength to body block weapons (which is probably quite effective given the Zandalari have scales on their skin which makes this technique effective).
So whilst I don’t doubt DKs and DHs are some of the strongest classes going, I think a fully juice up Zandalari prelate could give them some real issues, particularly if the race is smaller, but not too small (like Humans/Orcs) as the Prelate could probably knock them around easily. Now factor in loa-blessed strength as well.
Similarly it is described they can pierce metal plates by applying pressure with their thumbs alone. This suggests that a Zandalari, where they’re able to get hold on an unarmoured/lightly armoured part of an opponent, would be able to break their bones without huge effort.
tauren display similar strength (possibly greater) however Zandalari regeneration and their agility make them more daunting imo, as they’re (lorewise) not pictured to be immensely weaker than Taurens are (although we have no picture of their strength comparatively) but they are pictured to be quite agile, despite favouring brute force, which suggests that they’re quite far ahead of Tauren in this area.
An opponent that doesn’t necessarily need weapons or magic to be a huge danger to you, can be somewhat quick, whilst being notoriously difficult to take down sounds pretty deadly in any regard. Now throw a class on top of that like a mage and it’s a very unsettling picture. The game may limit it to mages being totally afraid of melee, but if the lore is to be followed let’s say a human warrior closes on a Zanda mage and plunges their blade in their side, it’s entirely plausible the Zandalari will simply remove the blade and and break the human warrior’s arm before throwing them some distance like a rag doll, and by that point the wound would be closed. Obviously for gameplay reasons you can have certain races of mage being that physically formidable, but according the lore, it would be the case.
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I second this, death knights are incredibly strong lorewise, They’re dead, or rather, undead, they dont feel pain, they dont get fatigued, while a regular warrior would get tired RP wise, the death knight just keeps on bursting.
You can imagine it like, you know when you first start lifting something heavy, you will most likely feel atleast slightly tired in your arms after starting to, you also use a lot more strength in the beginning than later on. Death Knights, as they dont get tired -always- maintain that initial strength, making them extremely good at overpowering people.
And I just went over their physical attributes.
they’re also extremely similar when it comes to magic - Oh a mage is casting fire at me, Let me just absorb it…
I’d say a paladin or a priest are two good classes that can counter a death knight lorewise, due to their Holy Light.
Can I also mention that if you cut off a death knights limb, sure you’re hindering them slightly, but not by a lot.
https://youtu.be/ZmInkxbvlCs?t=87
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Depends on whether that DK is wearing Saronite. Saronite has this unusual property in that it can reflect Holy Light, often to explosive effect. Lorewise, if a DK is head to toe in Saronite… It may temporarily blind them, it may make them weaker on consecrated ground. But it won’t physically hurt them as you’d expect undead to be.
Convenient for Death Knights too because only they can wear/wield it without hearing and/or succumbing to the whispers of the Old Gods. They’re bound only to the will of The Lich King, they don’t hear the whispers.
Bit of grey area now though because ol’ Sylvanas destroyed the Helm of Domination and I don’t anticipate Blizz will address where DKs now stand in Shadowlands. Are they just fleshier Forsaken of various races stacked with undeath powers now?
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Tauren DK is lore-wise the strongest. Tauren are already the physically strongest race, add unholy strength and a complete lack of limiters on muscles that death magic coursing through them provides, a Tauren DK could probably snap any race in half with his bare hands.
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