Why are summoning stones outside of instances?

hi, why are summoning stones outside of instances and are not inside instead?
I can think of at least 10 reasons why it should be inside but I cannot think of a single good reason why they are outside. With cross faction enabled for lfg, it is hard to know the location of your other faction teammate since their nameplate will not be showing. another reason for pvp enabled players, people die a lot by other pvp enabled players when they are outside waiting to summon their friends. And also, for wm on/off, alot of times u find out that u cannot summon because your friend next to you has wm on/off. additionally , when you get summoned and accept the summon, u get loading page, then u go in and u get another loading page then maybe u need to repair and go out and in and u get 2 loading pages. And the worst thing is when you summon someone and all your party go in, then you find out that the person you summoned is afk, THEN 2 people have to go out and summon him again . So many reasons make me believe summoning stones should be inside.there might be a good technical reason why it is the way it is but if blizzard can place them inside, it would be a good quality of life improvement and people will love it. What do you guys think? please let me hear your thoughts

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Before i start can you please use paragraphs make it hard to read…

On topic with the amount of dungeons and raids we have it would take a lot to move them. Also do not forget some stones serve more than one dungeon/raid.

Not only that but some instances would need a rework at the entrance for a stone to be fitted in.

Not really the answer i expected from an MvP seems very harsh and blunt and tbh a bit trollish.

Sounds like a reason to keep it. World PvP doesn’t work if people just teleport from sanctuary to instance and vice versa. Anyone who doesn’t like it can disable war mode.

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well warlocks can summon you anywhere, it’s not related to stone’s position.

i think the reason is because that’s how they could do it in 2004 , probably a classic design idea behind it and it was called a meeting stone so meet up and enter the dungeon . i don’t know why they don’t revamp them or keep adding the same old thing tho. it could be done like a readycheck, one click from the lead .

the stones weren’t for summoning, back in ye old days they functioned as a LFG for that dungeon that could only be used by interacting with that stone.

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I mean, the MvP was 100% right though. That is a quality of life improvement that a class is bringing, sooooo bring the class.

Same could be said for food “why aren’t there food vendors in raids”: just bring a mage if that’s that important for you.

Having the stone inside wouldn’t really change anything, would only matter for wm.

So much of this forum is filled with people spamming useless grievances about convenience items. Maybe blizz would care more about this place if the things raised were actually serious, but these posts really dilute it

Yeah i agree but could have put in more polite and explained more like i did :slight_smile:

every post means something to somebody just because we do not agree with them doesnt make them less valid.

Correct

It was changed to function as summoning stones in 2.0.1 . There was no 1.13 patch Meeting stones worked as LFG system in vanilla, nobody used them though because world/lfg channel was better.

I never said it isn’t valid BECAUSE I don’t agree with it.
There are plenty of things I agree with that are “not valid” aka are ‘useless to post’ because they are just personal grievances and not constructive feedback

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Ok thanks :slight_smile: have a great rest of night.

Stop changing what others said to be able to act high&mighty over them :blush:
Just a reminder that you attacked the MvP, and now try to act all friendly.

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what did i change?

didnt attack just pointed something out but if you think thats attack well you do you :slight_smile:

You seem a little defensive and angry , i hope your night improves and word of advice stop reading into things that are not there makes your time on forums more fun :slight_smile: :hugs:

You pretended i said the point wasn’t valid “just because i didn’t agree with it”

Which would indeed be petty. But that was never what I said. So you tried to make me out to be petty, which is a crap way to respond.

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class can bring you to any point tho. if that was the reason we wouldn’t have stones at all

There are things that bring convenience to you. For example the AH mount. AH mounts didn’t replace AH NPCs and didn’t create AHs themselves, they just bring the AH to you.

Mageportals, repairmounts, repairbots etc do the same, they bring something that already exists in the game to wherever you want it

You said diluted which to me means not valid i guess its a langague barrier maybe, anyhow you are taking this off topic with calling me petty it was just a comment and if you are upset well gosh darn i am sorry but there is nothing to be so angsty about :slight_smile:

Last time i reply its a rant over nothing but i guess you wanted to defend the MvP and i am muting you as its late and do not want to agrue over something so small.

You are dancing around the first part, showing that you have nothing to defend yourself with and indeed intended to look down on me from the getgo. I am not angsty, you are projecting your own feelings onto me

good night thank you for debate.

Could be awkward inside as many dungeons have progression points. Re entering does not put you at the start. Outside is always static. Both factions can summon each other. Its only wm on/off or being on different phases of a zone that causes issues of you are the summoning duo.

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Yes, it’s hard to spot team member of different faction because of name plates and font colour is different as well. What i do is, i simply place markers on party members so we can see each others in the crowd.