What is it with this newcomers stuff? I up graded my wife’s European starter account with the War Within. Three things accrued
There is a Newcomer channel that won’t go away until a character reaches level 61 with 40 hours of play. I just kept ignore everyone on it so it wouldn’t be flooding the regular chat box.
Daily Battle Pets were no longer available without a long quest chain.
Sky ridding was no longer available at level 10. Everything was ground mount till level 20.
Yes I did give feed back to Blizzard. I told Blizzard that we have no plans to renew that subscription. We both have been playing for 19 years. It is degrading to be treated like a newbie rather than a loyal gamer.
I’m not exactly sure what you mean by this. I’m going to guess.
In all expansions up to Pandaria, you have to take the quest to complete each of the daily tamers once before you can get those quests daily. And you have to complete each expansion’s tamers before you can start the next.
This was always so, going back to the untroduction of battle pets in Mists. Nothing has changed. Just get yourself an Idol and a few others at 25 and blast through it.
If you meant something else, please let me know.
I admit I’m out of touch with low level riding, but aas Skyridfing/Dragonriding EVER available at 10? I don’t remember it so.
if you read your Blizzard support, you would see that is exactly what I posted,
Unable to Leave Newcomer Chat After Level 20
Updated: 2 years ago
Article ID: 276152
Product:
Common Problems
* Once I hit level 20, I wasn’t removed from newcomer chat.
I cannot manually leave newcomer chat now that I’m level 20.
You will be removed from Newcomer Chat once you’ve reached level 61 and have 40 hours played.
I have been playing for 19 years and I don’t ever recall having to do a quest line for the battle trainers with each expansion I purchased. That is starting with vanilla and going to the War Within
On my regular accounts my levels 10 do just fine Sky ridding.
I was wondering that. It seems like a real nothingburger issue. Mildly annoying, but one that will very quickly disappear into the past. I wouldn’t cancel a 19 year sub because of such a small problem unless I was already looking for a reason to quit. Which is fair and fine if that’s the truth, but in that case maybe don’t complain about it and just go
Maybe the OP can make an extra chat tab and move Newcomers to that? Or make a new tab for literally everything else and just have that one on top all the time, leaving the default tab un-used?
I usually have guild/whisper/public tabs so I can relegate city chat and services to a place I won’t see them unless I really want to.
I was focusing on their solution/workaround in that article:
If you do not wish to see the contents of the Newcomer chat, you can separate the Newcomer chat from the general chat by right-clicking the channel, then clicking “move to new window”.
I remember learning pet battling when it was introduced in Mists VERY well. The climb through the Tamers to the Celestial Tournament is one of the most enjoyable experiences I have ever had in WoW. I was obsessed with it for a while.
I repeat: nothing has changed. There are now some new more powerful pets available from later expansions, and there are new ways to level pets faster introduced in later expansions, so that makes the journey easier and smoother, but the quest series and the pets are the same.
Now, when it comes to later expansions, starting in Legion with the first World Quests, you do have to complete the levelling campaign of each expansion before you can open ANY World Quests - not just the pet world quests. And that is also unchanged in each expansion. Yes, following each expansion, some expansions have their levelling campaign changed, some in major ways, some smaller. I do agree it is painful to complete all those levelling campaigns again, if you have done them before on your US account. And Suramar, and Argus, and … /shudder … Shadowlands.
But nothing has changed, except whatever post-expansion changes Blizzard made to the levelling campaigns. When the expansions were current, you still had to complete the campaigns before you could open World Quests. But ofc you were naturally doing that as you levelled.
I didn’t say anything about quitting. I have other accounts and so does my wife that we play. It just won’t be that account were they treat her like a newbie
If shes been playing for 19 years why have her use a starter account tho, is this a region thing?
Is she using a new bnet account?
Cant you hook the EU subscription up to her main region bnet account to avoid being marked a newbie?
If you for example opened a new bnet account to host your EU license then the game has no way to know you are a veteran player, I can imagine that being an issue
Most people won´t , but this simply wouldnt be a gaming forum if we let reality get in the way of a good, old-fashioned whine
AS the OP said, both players already have active accounts and subs, so this is a third, fourth, "who-knows-how many"th B-net account, and as a result it´s essentially a nothingburger.
Is it annoying to have a fresh /former starter account marked as “new”? Somethimes, yes, as there are some things put in place that an experienced player doesn´t need or want to deal with. Should you expect that as a veteran? Well, yes, kind of…It´s not like oany of this is unknown…
Now, Is there another way Blizzard could handle this so as to continue to support new players but not unnecessarily annoy veterans on fresh accounts? Probably, though all of the solutions I can think of off the top of my head are either “opt in /Out” (which almost always wind up becoming future pain points for actual new players because they somehow “accidentally” opted out at some point… i.e. some know-it-all probably told them “you´ll never need that” and they were dumb enough to believe them), or are at best convoluted messes of code that will potentially make spaghetti seem like a scannable barcode in comparison.
Does this actually have any impact on I´d wager 90+% of the veterans out there? No, not really.
The proper solution in my opinion would be to give everyone, Newcomer or not, the Newcomer approach but require semi-advanced knowledge of how to opt out of the Newcomer features. For example, leaving the Newcomer chat by going into the Chat Settings, which is something everyone who has played at least 6 months should have already tampered with enough to know about it, and disabling Newcomer advices and popups by going into Advanced Options and toggling them off.
For most veterans the game has changed and they also ask questions in newcomer. An experienced player would also already know how to put chat in a separate window but the support article does also explain how to do it.
Some new players would prefer to stay in newcomer longer, it would be nice if they were offered that option. Many still have questions.
I hate how flying currently works when levelling. I do not get on with skyriding but it’s forced on me for x number of levels until steady flight comes back.
Absolutely agree. While they OFC have to leave at some point, many of the really important questions don´t even pop up until they´ve hit levelcap, and asking them in /1 or /2 is “risky” at best, both in terms of having your account randomly sanctioned for daring to ask an innocent question and thereby out ourself as not being a born-progamer, as well as what feels like 90%+ of the responses being either callous “just read a guide, n00b”-ish statements or obvious trolling a lá “Press alt+F4 to enter godmode”…
They should be given a popup allowing them to choose to leave NC chat or stay until cap and then maybe 10 -15 hours beyond… So that we can at least have somewhat of a chance of warning them about sharks before they get forced to dive off the deep end… maybe even run a low key or 2 with them to get them started in a safe environment that isn´t going to flame and kick them just for having 1-2 talent points not spent “correctly”.
Yes, you may. You’ll only be able to log into a single instance of the Battle.net account at a time, but you can have multiple WoW licenses on that Battle.net active. So you could log into WoW1 and WoW2, either on the same computer or two different…
My wife’s main account is in North America. She has a starter account in Europe. I have two main accounts one in North America and one in Europe. We often play together and help each other out. I needed help in Europe and ask her if I could upgrade her European starter account. She said OK.
While she was playing her main account in North America, I opened up her starter account, upgraded it to War Within. While she was playing in North America I created a character for her to use in Europe. I started to level it up for her while I was there and do some of the Children Week storyline. That is when I saw three things neither of us had ever seen before.
The Newcomer chat channel.
The long drawn out line in order to daily pet battles
Level 10s couldn’t skyride.
Though her starter game is new, her account was created 19 years ago and so was mine. I didn’t have this Newcomer issues when I upgraded my European starter account with Dragon Isles.
FYI these are our gaming computers.
HP Omen 45L GT22 Intel Desktop (2023) | Core i9-13900K - 4TB SSD Hard Drive - 128GB RAM - Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 | 24 cores @ 5.8 GHz - 24GB GDDR6X. We have high speed internet. We can run two WoW games on each computer and watch streaming Netflix at the same time, with no lag at top graph specs.
We were Newcomers 19 years ago. It seems that there are a lot of players on here that Blizzard is treating like Newcomers when they tell me I can’t do this in the game.
You get skyriding (or whatever it’s called these days) at 10/when you leave Exile’s Reach, and at 20 you can finally use Switch Flight Style.
Why? Who knows. But would be nice if Blizzard decided to either give us Switch Flight Style at lvl 10, or force ground us til lvl 20
False! I just completed Exile’s Reach, level 11. I got a golden eagle. However my spell book says, “Journeyman ridding passive, You can now ride ground mounts.”
You really should check your facts before running off at the fingers.
