That’s simply not true.
Many players do not participate in ‘the big 3’ (not counting LFR).
For rep, I like the principle of the Commendations in Mists. Use your main to buy multipliers or specific rep skips for your alts.
This was exactly my position when the account wide kludge oozed in to the game, and I was pretty angered by it, for exactly this reason.
I’m beaten down now, though, because they have so trashed the journey and the lower level experience that there doesn’t seem to be any value in it any more.
Ye sorry but im going to disregard anyone that is only doing world quests and the like. For obvious reasons.
I kinda like how soul ash works right now. I can farm it on my main and mail it to my alt, at slightly reduced efficiency compared to farming it on my alt. To me, this is a good way of implementing account-wide things, because I can choose to ignore it. Same with heirlooms - I can completely ignore them.
But then… you have mounts for example and account-wide rep and meta rewards (like flying). The problem isn’t necessarily that these things exist - it’s good that I have to get flying only once. The problem is I can’t opt out of it.
Tier 6 Archivists should at least be account wide. If you now want to upgrade conduits above 226, previous season ilvl, you need to farm for forever for tier 6 first. And you still don’t get anything from free from there. You still need to farm the currency to be able to buy the tokens.
A world where playing an alt didn’t require as much time as A full time job? IMPOSSIBLE
I remember times where hardest part about playing an alt was getting it to max level, now it’s the easy part…
I would much rather just do leveling from 0 to 100 than choregast, maw, another covenant campaign or even more Korthia. The introduction of domination sockets is just a cherry on top
To be fair, I think the best way to handle things like Covenants or the archivist codex is to make them server-wide progressions, where every character on that server gets all the progression immediately. I know this goes against my other statement, but I don’t believe systems like the codex or covenants should even exist.
The archivist codex could’ve been a simple rep. And I hate the fact that 233 gear is locked behind codex level AND renown level. By the time we can get 233 gear, it’ll be so irrelevant.
Yeah. I think blizz is trying to achieve we are not maxed out ever.
Alt tax being aboot gear, glyphs, professions : gems, enchants and one legendary item were clearly enough. Now, the tax is aboot unfun things that are already tedious on 1 char.
Like with IRL tax, there is a point where taxing above a certain percentage would cause more issues than solving. Sadly, Korthia would be like an extra 20% tax on revenue.
Blizzard HAD to say such statement after BFA’s alt unfriendly essences and cloack.
Korthia gear is bad, it serves no purpose for high end player and is out of reach for casual.
An overall wrongly done system.
That reputation alone makes the game not alt unfriendly but alt hostile.
To be fair, the game would be so much better without korthia, conduits, soulbinds.
I want talent trees again T_T All these stupid systems are implemented only because… there’s literally nothing interesting to our characters. Just 7 talent choices, what we have are DOTA heroes, not RPG classes.
I find the expansion quite alt friendly though. If I wanted I could level up in a day. Then you can just spam dungeons for gear. Do the camping or whatever when you feel like or have spare time.
Yes it would not be as powerful as my main which I’ve played for almost a year in this expansion. I think many here and I have a different idea what alts are and how they should be treated.
Edit: I’m not saying SL is the most alt friendly expansion ever or anything and won’t go into that debate.
Those were pretty good for sure, better than now.
But I still like how it was in TBC. I was looking for a Tailoring recipe for a mog one time and I saw it was a recipe from Nagrand. My Tailor hadn’t done much of TBC (was a lowbie at the time it was current) but I noticed the recipe was BoA so I bought it on my Blacksmithing Paladin who had done the rep back then. I was so relieved that I could get that recipe. There is no way I’d have farmed the rep for one recipe though.
Not sure when the TBC recipes became BOA or if they were like that when TBC was current. I’d be happy if they just implemented this on all “Legacy” content. recipes etc are BoA.
How very elitist of you.
Since you’re an elitist, I’m going to disregard everything you say.
For obvious reasons.
You were mince wording. If youre only doing world quests then gear progression is the least of your concerns anyhow. Anyone who is playing the content provided to them is going to outgear the stygia upgrades before being able to access them. Now shoo.
What was vague about what I said exactly?
No. That is what YOU think. But there’s a few issues with that:
- Your mindset does not apply to those people perse.
- I’m not ONLY doing world quests.
- I definitely DO care about gear progression.
That’s a stupid way of looking at it. And you know why?
BECAUSE THE KORTHIA STYGIA UPGRADE SYSTEM ISN’T EVEN MADE FOR PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
Sure, they can use it to get maybe that 1 gear slot that just won’t drop or stuff like that. But overal; it’s not meant for those people.
So conclusion: YOUR opinion is irrelevant.
I’m not against talent tree, but I can’t help thinking that would backfire and Blizzard would handle that poorly.
It is if :
-You don’t care aboot renown
-You don’t care aboot legendaries
-You don’t care aboot conduits
This expansion is good if I ignore those systems.
They had a well rounded reputation system from TBC up to MOP (included) and yet decided to throw that system in the bin, for whatever reason.
Because it was not relevant to the point i was making. By the time one reached the requirements to buy this item the toon will have outgeared the gear provided by this item if he is playing what the game offers. Someone that is limiting himself only to world quests is of no relevance here hence me dismissing said group of people
Yeah cool story. You can do whatever floats your boat. Doesnt change my point. You dont need gear progression for world quests is also another thing.
Aha for whom is it then? Surely not for my main whos 249. Or anyone that is doing dungeons, raids, pvp as they will be way past 226 by the time they reach tier 6.
Again: For what group of people is it meant for then?
The irony is amusing. I guess i hit a soft spot again because you felt your way of playing was attacked again for some weird reason as that has happened often in the past as well.
Well as I said later in my reply: YOUR type of player is the one who’s not of relevance here. Because that system wasn’t created for players like you, who get most of their gear from one of ‘the big 3’.
Elitist. And narrowminded.
Players who prefer world content. Players who do not engage (much) in ‘the big 3’.
I’d say that is clear.
The fact that you don’t even understand that, shows how narrowminded you are.
No. Just the very sad fact you are incapable of understanding that not everyone plays the way you play.
And these veiled insults won’t help you with that.
What i said was aimed to alts. That doesnt mean i expect said alts to raid mythic or similar content. Even for M+ someone doing 8s is going to get better gear from it. Its getting even worse if i include the Vault loot. PvPers also already disregard the stygia loot from the get go
This has been debated with you in countless other threads by countless other people. Not once have you brought up a proper argument that supports it that you need gear progression for world quests.
Ah. So you assume it was solely created for World Questers rather than being one another system being poorly implemented during this patch. Gotcha.
Please go and show me where i said that everyone plays the game like i play it. Would be very surprising to me if everyone in this game would play it in the same fashion as me.
Ye mate im not willing to debate this with you so as i said you can shoo. Go feel offended somewhere else. Or if you stick in this thread then feel offended by someone else.
Then it’s still not relevant. Players who do ‘the big 3’ content, whether it’s on mains or alts, are not the main target audience of this system.
You’re very, very wrong about that. I have. Many times.
No, learn comprehensive reading. I didn’t say ‘solely’. I said ‘mainly’. I even gave an example of how a ‘big 3’ player could still find a use for this system.
You said:
Anyone, meaning… Anyone. Because words matter.
Which means you meant EVERYONE. Which means you think EVERYONE plays the game the way you do.
Makes sense?
Of course you didn’t LITERALLY say it. But words matter.
And your conclusions just show that you only regard ‘your way of playing the game’.