Why aren't Shamans looked into in PvP?

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DISCLAIMER: WE ARE TALKING SOLELY IN PVP, DO NOT BRING UP PARSES, DO NOT BRING UP WARRIORS LIVING RENT FREE IN YOUR HEAD, DO NOT BRING UP X CLASS IS BETTER IN PVE RIGHT NOW

THIS IS ABOUT PVP

PVP

PLAYER VS PLAYER

Shamans are OP in PvP right now, even worse in battlegrounds when they can max out 60% more stamina than every other class.
Yet none of their runes are touched.

Why does Blizzard not care about PvP? Shamans are actually bonkers right now. Enhancement and Elemental are both insane damage + strong survivability.

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Shamans are usually good at this level range? They’ll fall off come 60.

Some classes just get strong at some levels, however it’s midgame and true balance is at end game.

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To quote all the people here, SoD isn’t era. Since a lot of people are crying about warrior’s damage because of that. Why shouldn’t this change for both this level and at level 60?

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SoD is a perk pack inside era though. So technically, SoD is era.

SoD is also a PvE game. Not one rune is unlocked through PvP.

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So why were hunters and druids nerfed?
What makes Shamans to be clear from these nerfs?

Props to you for admitting that Shamans are good, but druids and hunters were good in PvP. Now they’re still good, just less broken.

Shaman is absolutely broken right now.

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Shamans not broken. Just this level favours us mon!

You wait. Level 60. Shamans be living in da spirit realm again.

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You could say the same about the previous classes that were nerfed.

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And how is that a valid argument at all? Our current endgame is at lvl 40. We need to balance around lvl 40.

what happens at 60, half a year from now, is irrelevant.

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Shaman are strong and one of the reason BGs as alliance are such a pain in p2, paladins on other hand are weaker in BGs. Main problem is that there is like 3-5 shamans/paladins in every single BG. When one side have one of the weaker classes while other have one of the stronger classes it really feel like to a punching bag in most Alliance BG these days. AB totaly not worth playing as all random group combat is one sided. Shamans are insane with the Decoy totem to be honest, dual weild rockbitter and overload at 50% chance(It was buffed in previous phase where they did not have elemental fury so was fine to provide good lava burst but now it is deffinitely OP).

Shamans is just what you pray paladins could be so BGs will get in line again. I would really would like to know win/loose ratio in AB in phase 2.

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They should look into SPs first.

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Ele has counterplay and plays pretty much exactly the same as Era ele does, no runes are insane bonkers etc.

Enhance is only insane due to Way of Earth tank rune being broken. Mechanically it’s not bonkers like 1k+ instant Starsurges with no counterplay was. Being a TANK with damage is a bit nuts.

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shamans aint broken at all, the way of earth rune is the only good thing this class has to offer right now, and still rogues can kill us very easy, we have no other defenses

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A shaman can’t sit in town and send a pet out to kill people with overwhelming success. A shaman can’t oneshot someone from the other side of the map while running away. This is what hunters and druids were doing. Eles are short range, enhance is melee range, they can be countered in many ways if you only know how to play your class. You can’t compare the classes.

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Again yesterday in same second on combat log : Lava Burst crit + CL crit + CL non crit, 1100 + 900 + 400. Guy had no zerk buff.

It’s not even an unlikely 3 crit streak, LB crit was guaranteed because of flame shock and second CL was non crit.

The nerf is coming, without a doubt. It is MUCH worse than boomies early phase and they got hotfixed.

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Literally impossible. But go on ahead and make stuff up because some shaman killed you :joy:

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I’m confused how this is worse when Ele has counterplay and Starsurge didn’t, youre comparing similar damage but other one is a near melee range 4 second setup casted ability, and the other is a 42yd instant with 6sec cd.

For refrence, Starfire crits 2.5k. Thats twice as much as Lava Burst does

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Love how I’m supposed to counter a Shaman when disarming him still makes it possible for him to crit me with lava lash for 700 damage. Then you play against them when they negative 10% of your damage, have 30% extra stamina and 6% decreased critical strike when you hit them.

Then these fools just tell you to just kite them or CC them lmao.

You people are actual :clown_face:

Actually scrap that, you people are the whole circus. Probably bad at the game else you wouldn’t vehemously defend your overpowered runes on these forums 24/7.

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Funny you made this topic.

Nerfs to melee hunters / boomkins and sp’s directly affected Alliance vs Horde win ratios.

Now the only truly strong class - shaman - is Horde exclusive. Alliance has nothing to counter it. Our female nelf hunter overlords were gimped, sps gimped, boomkins with arguably more attractive chiken model nerfed. We are truly doomed.

Only real solution is to allow Alliance create shamans starting next week with alt exp buffs.

Uncle Blizz pls gief us shamans. Ty.

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Shamans deserve the biggest nerf ever , way of earth needs to be DESACTIVATED in PVP, decoy totem needs a 5 minutes cooldown, and a Big nerf to the damage (hello instant 1k2 lava burst), they are support : not walking Terminators

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Tell me what class you play and I’ll tell you why you’re a noob :grin:

Actually, since you want decoy on a 5 minute CD I’ll assume you’re a ranged class of some sort. In which case: learn to kite.