Why can Dracthyr only be Evoker?

[Evokus-ravencrest]

@Tah-earthen-ring

Everything you say is about ‘now’. But they wouldn’t get access to new classes until later. Maybe not until the next expansion or even later. This is about the ‘less special dracthyr’, those who were created without powers (because Neltharion was definitely not infallible - his later experiments are proof of this and you’d think that he’d do BETTER on those because of his prior experience with experimenting with the Dracthyr).

Yes there could be other experiments, but they wont be drakthyrs lol.

Draconids the melee dragons, arent drakthyrs either.

Drakthyr is purely the aspects powered ones lol, if another experiment of melee draconids come out the woodwork.

They notably cannot be drakthyr.

BecUse they dont fit the exact definition set in lore for us which seperates us from the other dragon based races.

There is more lore to give evokers a melee tank specc currently then to add a class to the race.

Also no.

He couldnt do better, cause the gauntlet that offered him the power broke during OUR creation, he lost the ability to make dracthyrs after us.

That is why he turned to the void.

He canonically was corrupted to void after our creation and he couldnt confirm able to control us.

So no canonically, we were the last steps. Also canonical that we are the only experiments he didnt destroy.

Watch belluara video on the latest deathwing lore release, u will find it all there, this concept is in current lore seriously cut off it would require retconning several factors and likely delaying the break of his gauntlet + turning void in his time line to fit another experiment into his schemes

We know he stripped a ton of power out the aspects back in cata, we pressumed to stop the other aspects ending him, yet drakthyrs are the real reason.

He used said power to experiment with half dragons. Using a titanic gauntlet to control us, once the gauntlet broke, he couldnt confirm stability of his control so he froze us and turned to the void.

@Tah-earthen-ring

Besides, the devs already made comments about that they want to eventually unlock every class for every race (with the first movement towards that recently having taken place)

True they have, but dont u consider the fact the followed that statement upto that was launching not only a class that can play one race but also a race that could only be one class abit weird?

You could be right, they may add extra classes, it is defintly a possibility. But there will most defintly be retcons to put it in place.

We know drakthyr wont get extra classes this expansion, however its not ruled out for future expansions as blizzard said, id just find it sad if drakthyr gets opened up before DH does.

Theyve waited 6 years longer then us.

Espically as the outcry for DH is far larger then Evoker.

They may in 11.0 drop every class onto drakthyr. Is is sheer possibility and i suspose theu ignore plenty of high power sources for the sake of it plenty anyway.

Depending on the outcry for it ofcourse.

[Konstantino-celebras]

@Zhantharion-argent-dawn

Monk… I guess eventually they could learn it, I guess? But why would they? It is like the Hunter.

Actually Monk is more like shaman. The only difference is, shaman use spirit of life through extern help and being a mediator, monks use it by inner help with hard self-control and inner peace.

[Zhantharion-argent-dawn]

True
But the question still stands : why a Dracthyr would choose the path of the Monks (lets put aside the age old trope with the ancient wisdom and dragon senseis)?
They already have the life force thing covered with the Red heritage and the Green…
And martial arts while cool, not really tempting when you have scales and tail and wings and claws and fangs… I mean a Dracthyr would need to invent a totally new style to fight as a monk, because whats work with a Pandaren (and other humanoids limited to two arms and legs) not necessarily would work with a Dracthyr, whos body is a totally different build - I mean as a Dracthyr you simply couldn’t use and reach your full potential as a monk, because half of your “arsenal”, eg. flying, wings, tails, claws, bites, etc wouldn’t be used. A bit like the Worgen; a Monk Worgen actually would limit itself to the given martial art, instead just jump on the enemy and tear its thoat out and gore it with fangs and claws, wolf-style. But while the Worgen were Humans (or Night Elves) and would be hesitant to revert back to a primal state of mind and fighting stlye, a Dracthyr never been anything than a weapon designed to fight and make Neltharion proud
As Tah said:

@Tah-earthen-ring

Everything you say is about ‘now’.

It is true
But from a Dracthyr point of view, wasting time learning to be something you were made to - and Neltharion made a damn good job - is quite illogical
And while what Tah said is true:

@Tah-earthen-ring

This is about the ‘less special dracthyr’,

The problem is, the player Dracthyr are all Evokers - the elite of the elite, best of the best, accessing all the powers
Sure, the devs said, eventually every race will have every class, but I don’t think it will apply to the Dracthyr, a race that is made for the class and a class that is exlusive to a race (gnome Evokers will be never a thing, sorry)

@Tah-earthen-ring

Because it makes sense.

In my humble oppinion no
It won’t make any sense to a Dracthyr to be anything than an Evoker; no point to learn something that technically make you weaker and less effective
Except the Rogue thing, but even that is a bit shaky, but at least the Adamant Vigi would be an esxcuse to give them some rouge-like abilites, like chameleon scales to vanish and poisonous bites, claws… but not a whole class (outlaw would make 0 sense for example, pistols as a dracthyr when you have desintegrate)

[Lutia-draenor]

i could only see them be mage or priest and maybe death knight (how would that work i have no idea)

[Zhantharion-argent-dawn]

@Lutia-draenor

i could only see them be mage

With the Blue heritage who basically invented refined and guard magic? Hardly.

@Lutia-draenor

or priest

With 0 knowledge and connection to the Light or the need to have one, because of the Red, Green and a limited sense Bronze (Thanos-style turn back time on the wounded to “heal” them or like with Vision, restore them) heritage got you covered? Hardly. (The Void is out, so no Shadow priest, tried to be tainted by the Void as a Dracthyr and your mates will tear you apart - so dont need Balance to dance on the edge while using darker powers)

[Tah-earthen-ring]

@Zhantharion-argent-dawn

The problem is, the player Dracthyr are all Evokers

For now. That can change in the future to include the ‘lesser experiments’.

@Zhantharion-argent-dawn

It won’t make any sense to a Dracthyr to be anything than an Evoker; no point to learn something that technically make you weaker and less effective

I really don’t see it that way. Gaining new powers and abilities does NOT make you weaker. The ‘lesser’ Dracthyr I’m speaking of, have no power.

I think you’re making way too much of them being dracthyr and ‘special’.
They’re just another race. And it’s a game. It makes no sense for a race to only be one class in WoW; it completely butchers that race in a game sense.

It doesn’t make them special. It makes them extremely limited and a very, very, very, very niche race choice. And that makes all the work the devs put into the race, with its wide array of customization, pretty much a big waste.

[Zhantharion-argent-dawn]

@Tah-earthen-ring

I think you’re making way too much of them being dracthyr and ‘special’.

And you can’t let go the notion of the “lesser Dracthyr”
At the moment - and the future is unknown - there are only Evokers ,who are, yes, special and powerfull
No need to argue about facts
All the other things are just speculation, and frankly, baseless speculation, because no lesser goblin, no lesser vulpera, no lesser humans were introduced in the past almost two decades

[Tah-earthen-ring]

@Zhantharion-argent-dawn

At the moment

Yes, again; I’m not talking about right now.

@Zhantharion-argent-dawn

and the future is unknown

Sure, but there’s plenty of things they could do.

Because if you look at it from an objective game development point of view; having 1 race that can only be 1 class in a game where every other race has lots of choice when it comes to classes, just doesn’t make sense. It makes that 1 race far more limited.

@Zhantharion-argent-dawn

All the other things are just speculation

They’re ideas. Suggestions. I’m not saying it WILL happen.
Because I think they SHOULD add more classes. Right now the Dracthyr are a completely wasted potential.