Why Classic WoW is superior to inferior Retail

You need to have a lot of spare time to invest
Otherwise you just can’t do it and even if you can sink 10 hours a week, you’re just wasting it because you’ll never get anywhere and no one will accept you because “you’re a noob” and “not up to the game” etc. In WoW Classic you will eventually catch up as there are no crappy weekly torghaist and dailies to keep up or vault rewards, you can play the game on your own pace and eventually you will reach end game without worrying you missed some dailies or weekly grind.

Monthly changing rules, meta-game and other gamers
You need to really study the game to be able to not get murdered all the time. And guess what, all that studying just went down the bin because they changed the rules again! Look up how stupidly meta changes each season!

Which means all the work you spent over last 3 months building up your character is now wasted and your character is the worst character in the game after getting nerfed, not that you ever got to the point of actually being able to enjoy it’s powers while it had them.

But worry not - you’re going to get roflstomped by everyone else all the time with insults thrown at you because you have a job and family and cannot ever hope to be even remotely competitive or even be able to avoid being just target practice for those that have more hours to commit to being able to slaughter other gamers. While in Classic your character won’t be turned into joke next season because someone at the Blizzard is upset that this class is better than another one.

Lvling is actually fun
Yeah lvling in classic with friends can be viable and also challenging, you are not supposed to follow some story line or GOGO rush it, you are making your own adventure and with friends it’s fun. Enemies aren’t scaled to your level so with more people you can take on threats you wouldn’t be able to beat, you are exploring and make your own story and so do other players around you and then you all meet up to take on bigger threats like Lich king or Illidan.

“wow was an adventure, where you could do anything you wanted to do, and each quest you did have you a different adventure, now everyone has the same quests, doing the same thing, it makes a mmo in to a single player game with other people”

Gear and mounts
In classic you will get excited once you get your first green item, having a mount is super awesome experience. There is also racial identity, gnomes are on their robot chickens, humans got horses, paladins got battle horses, draenei got elephants etc… In retail andies just collect mounts and they are all same, they mean nothing they all got same speed while in classic each mount is unique.

Gear means something when you get something from a quest you know it’s special and not just something you know you are going to discard eventually it’s not same gear that is just slightly better than your previous item as i said it has a soul and it’s not just dumb ilevel like in retail, classic gear has soul while retail gear is just number without any soul at all.

Dungeons and socializing
Here is something what retail andies hates so much and that’s socializing, you see dear viewer they are used to just spam dungeons with their LFD system and it’s a damn problem for them to ask people for dungeons or raids because communicating is a skill they never and won’t ever lvl up, people once you make a group talks to each other and after dungeon is over people just don’t leave the instance without saying bye.

Dungeons are also more challenging and hard, getting wiped is more punishing, there are factors like mana keeping and many other things you need to know and it makes normal pubbing dungeons actually exciting and not boring chore like we have in retail.

Open World PvP actually is viable and more engaging
People complain about twinks and max lvl players killing low lvl players but that’s the point of PvP there is no flying until you reach Outland and Nothrend and that is if you can afford it, everything is on the land so you cannot fly to avoid enemies. You also meet levelers and you have diversity, you aren’t forced to only fight pvpers like in retail where pvp in open world is a joke and ghost town.

It’s your own adventure you are not following a path created for you
As I said previously this is your own adventure, you are crafting your own story, your character lives and you are part of the world, your game isn’t butchered for endgame content so they water down lvling, scaling, skills and everything for the sake so players can speedrun this process and grind for endgame stuff.

You aren’t forced to follow Blizzard disney stories in order to beat the expansion, you can take any quest you want and make your own story and that’s something what retail simply don’t have and why retail andies will never understand that in classic there are many other ways to enjoy the game without rushing the endgame content. Oh yeah and I forgot no more stupid transmogs! So no more transmog whoring yeah that’s another positive classic has!

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I like Classic too but what’s the point in this whole thread, really?

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I am a long time WoW player (started in May 2005) and I do not find absence of transmogrification an advantage. Yes it breaks immersion when everybody uses whatever junk they can find, but making appearance optional would solve the issue.
I do not like most of Wrath grey-brown-black mixed together in one gear color palette, neither was I fan of TBC toxic extremes variations, however there are good pieces of gear out there and I would like to mog em at least for myself and maybe as an option for others to see if they switch it on.

Imagine false reporting for someone having an opinion, reported for that.

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After equipping Gored Hide Leggings on my Hunter and wishing I had been struck blind - I almost caved in and joined the pro-Transmog side.

Must remain strong. The nightmare of the world’s ugliest pants shall pass.

(Disclaimer: There were no Rogues or Druids in the group, nobody else wanted them, and they were a zillion times better than the Outland pants I was previously wearing).

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To be fair Transmog does alievate the “Clown Syndrome” that happens in MMOs (situation where player equip visually not fitting gear simply because it’s better than anything else statistically). Although it wouldn’t do much in WotLK since there’s simply no variation.

Keep repearing the lie to yourself and yet majority of PvP servers is so heavily tipped to the side of one faction that world PvP is basically nonexistent.

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Thread where OP is passive-aggressive, stating opinions as facts with click-bait title?

I like pies.

This is so true and made me chuckle :sweat_smile::rofl:

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Better to explain why Cataclysm/MoP is better than anyelse.

Kinda funny, but I have to ask. Have you ( OP ) even played one of those games ? :smiley:

Reading your statements about DUNGEONS AND SOCIALIZING - top kek :smiley: hard dungeons ? People chatting witch each other ? :smiley:
World pvp ? cmon :smiley: I cant laught that hard mate :smiley:

But mate, I have to say : Best troll post for a while :smiley: I had a good laught :smiley:

edit :
:smiley: Your own adventure :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: because everyone following guides and bis list :smiley: :smiley: Damn, I hurt my ribs laughting :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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Wrong. In retail you can run a few mythic dungeons per week and loot your items from the vault. Or if you are super lazy you run 1 dungeon a week and eventually you’ll be in full mythic raid ilvl gear. In classic, if you don’t have 5k GS and 99% parses you are a noob and won’t be accepted in the raids (as written on these forums multiple times). Though, I guess you can swipe that gold and go sit naked in a GDKP if you want to be time efficient.

Is what makes retail fun. You cannot just pick an OP class like in classic during the end of TBC and faceroll the meters with it whole next expansion.

Wrong. Leveling is a chore and nobody likes it. If they bring JJ back it could be okay-ish.

No, I don’t get excited about mounts or green items. With the inflated economies anyone can afford all of the mount skills they need with just picking up i.e mining and mining some nodes while leveling.

Oh yes I love that social experience. “inv dps” “inv tank” “inv heal”
→ “summ pls” “ty”
—> “gg cya”

What world pvp? The largest servers which the clear majority of the players play in are one faction realms.

Great, you can pick which zone you want to level in from the possible two options or so. Then you are forced to pick the meta OP spec and be a raidlog slave as there is nothing else to do in the game besides endgame content, which can be cleared in 2 hours per toon.

I took the bait. But it is fine, I do not have anything better to do currently than to respond to these bait threads. Living the dream

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I constantly get called troll just for having a different opinion as well.

Hopefully the false flaggers get punished in some way

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You appear to have stirred up the hive with this post. Every retailer and their dog have crashed in to defend retail’s honour.

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Yeah, I have also noticed that every DH main on this forum is super aggressive for each time you like or you find classic to be better like Tygra, not being capable of writing why she is calling trolling when i’m posting it wotlk forum a forum dedicated for classic players if I posted this in retail forum I could see why it would be considered trolling, but trolling is when retail players drops on classic forum to tell classic players that disliking retail is trolling.

You are tough one to crack mate ! :slight_smile:

But if you want to rate players based on their forums avatar … go ahead. :slight_smile: Should I rate you based on your forum avatar ? :smiley:
I do not play retail, this is just remnant of my last appearance there while playing shadowlands :slight_smile: I really do not care about retail. But it is nice to struck some nerves with retail avatar … and bingo ! :slight_smile:
I do not have much time today, so I wont bother with ya.

But if you meant all of this for real, you should answer Hoitsu, but nah, you are choking mate, thats why you picked me :smiley:

Have a nice day ya funny man !

Retail players mindset: someone has different opinion than you = trolling.

Haha no in classic not playing for one week you won’t get behind in gear, in m+ yeah you will and no reaching high GS score in wotlk is easier and less of a chore and you are not forced to do dailies or grinding same place in order not to get behind with gear because you might not get that cool ring from the vault you needed so badly.

Yes it’s fun to invest months to make your character strong just so next week it becomes the worst class ever and now you can do another 3 months to do same process again but with different class and toon if you call this fun then you are masochistic.

Yeah in retail that’s true in wotlk leveling is fun because you are not supposed to be max level in 2 days but again with your retail mindset I can see why this is an issue for you.

Unless you buy gold or you have already toon for grinding you won’t be able to afford such things and thus your first green item and mount will mean more than in retail where green is pretty much white tier and purple items are almost always same stuff just with different numbers.

That’s retail experiences as well + wotlk lfg channel is like that but socializing happens outside of lfg channel, you meet people in open world and ask them etc even you can use that new group finder and dm those people and even this way you bond with them more than 1) they are from same realm as you 2) you bond more with someone who says hi to you and you reply to them instead of just teleporting into instanced group with people who are from different realms. I have no reason to befriend someone from different realm.

Read it again and you might understand it.

if you find classic players finding classic better on classic forum as a bait then I must applause you for epic warped mind you have, also you are again using retail experiences to describe classic there are no two starting zones you can pick like in retail if you mean dwarves and humans starting place then it’s not really a choice, in bfa you are following Disney main storyline with chain of quests that’s not a thing in classic, you are simply exploring the world and leveling dunno what’s so hard on understanding the difference.

I read and you’re absolutely wrong. Classic population on PvP servers is heavily veering into Monofaction. Gehenna? 99.9% Horde. Firemaw? 99.9% Alliance. Golemagg - Horde, Earthshaker - Alliance, Ashbringer - 90% Horde, Same in Mograine. Yes this is data from Ironforge but sadly wowclassicpop com is not giving too clear picture here since the data is rather spotty due to it relying on people using their addon and sending the data (you should do it folks it doesn’t really affect your gameplay too much). And what little is there still paints similar picture. Also primary PvP Servers are locked and their population is basically 100% in Northrend levels.

its just an anti retail andy post with sarcastic slurring. Funny thing is that wotlk is closer to retail than you actually think.

Stop imagining for someone else. You failed.

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