Why cry now?

PVP War Mode and World PvP
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So only the horde had the 10% bonus and the alliance didnt have it ? That is what you want to say? As far i remember, both faction had the bonus. So why you call it “free bonus” ?

Lol…so you consider this a fix? Like you deserved that 400ilvl piece of gear and the evil Blizz listen to the devious horde and removed your privilege to get more 400ilvl gear pieces? Are you serious?

Where or how they got buffed? I see Swifty streams and he is rampaging in Zuldazar capital on weekly basis. And i didnt saw his raid wiping from NPC’s.

What horde racials are so superior to alliance that they cant even play the game?

Please…go ahead. Lets see who will be happier…

And here we go with the traditional “blackmail” tool that alliance is using against devs. Go mate…turn off WM. Like we give a sh#t for 15 AP at a wq…really?

What solution did alliance gaved untill now? Except using the enabling/disabling WM as a blackmail tool? Did you came on forum in march, when that AOO was and said :
"I am a alliance player and what we do is disgracefull and not honorable and i advise my ally colleagues to not abuse the AOO event to zerg everything in their path" ?

Its not a thing to deny or admit, its a reality.

And here we go again…the old blackmail tool… Btw…do you guys know something else except using blackmail tools to point your views?

Finally someone who really knows and understands everything i tried to explain since march untill today. Alliance has the number, but they still choose to not enable it. Why? I dont know…

They cant do that. If they connect to flying, people will participate untill they get fly and after turn it off again. And then we go back to square one…
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I think there is one solution that could ballance the WM/WPVP feature and also fix this crap sharding feature:

According to realmpop, on EU region there are a total of 24+ millions characters created. The horde/alliance ratio is 50:50 % . So, what i would do i would merge dominant servers between them. Example:
We take Silvermoon server wich is a alliance dominant server, it has a population of 555k alliance characters and 34k horde characters. Then we take a horde server, for example Draenor, wich has a population of 530k horde characters and 55k alliance characters. You merge thoose two servers and problem fixed. You create a almost balanced ratio between factions populations and jobs done. No more sharding full with lag. You dont allow groups outside thoose merged servers and everything will be ok.
Then, the alliance cant complain anymore that they are zerged, that they are outnumbered or what-ever reason. Same for horde.

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Risk free.

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Okay ive seen alot here but let me mention 90% of pvpers are horde cause of your retarded op racials (orc : 20% stun reduction and the beserking , troll = haste racial ) do you remmember how long our racials were unique until legion cause every horde kid complained about human racial til it got nerfed , lets mention pve aswell troll race dominates raiding on horde side. reason people are horde in bfa is racials and how bias this shiy expansion is towards horde look at 1st horde elite sets and ally ones only good looking set for ally was the plate one . but all horde elte sets looked good in season 1 pvp ?
whats fun on ally side ? to get sht on forums by a horde player that has 0 exp in pvp and pve … okay i guess

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So to sum up what you said. Vast majority of Alliance will not activate WM because they are beyond TRASH LEVEL at PVP (maybe not able to kill something not scripted as in pve) or because Horde has orc racial with stun reduction?

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Stop the lies, if I attack a single Horde there’s 4 more waiting 3 yards away. If I get attacked and fight, they also attack me. Can’t fight back, know what i should run raid groups 24/7, the true WM experience. Crushing everybody 24/7 and not even being able to get rep. At all.

Stop ignoring the statistics, there aren’t enough Allaince. Any metric says this: 70%+ is now Horde, Horde has 2.5 to 3+ more groups for events than Alliance and CoS 100 Horde guilds and 13 Alliance… The situation isn’t fine. Even if all Alliance mains activate WM most of the Horde will sit in empty shards. They more than double us.

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Yes, regarding Orcs, they are top played race in PVP (19,3%). Then, place 2 and 3 are taken by Night Elf (15,2%) and Human (15%). So out of top 3 races played in PVP, 2 are alliance races.
And if we look at the best PVP players rank, we will see that in top 10 best players in the world (highest ranks in 2v2,3v3 and BG score) 6 are alliance players and 4 are horde players. And what is even more funy, in this top 10 rank, there are only 2 Orcs. Not to metion that rank 1-5 is dominated by 4 alliance players and only one horde.
So my question is : how did thoose 6 alliance players managed to overcome that ultra-overpowered Orc racial and rank better than Orcs?
Now we go to PVE:
Most played races in mythic+ and raids: rank 1- Blood Elf (19,2%) ; rank 2 - Night Elf (12,1%); rank 3 - Human (10,6%) . After, on rank 4 we have Zandalari Troll (8%) and now, on rank 5 we got Troll (7,4%). How come, the so overpowered Trolls, with their exagerated OP racial are not dominating PVE?
And the most tricky question is : how did thoose alliance players managed to achieve thoose ranks/scores and other alliance players couldnt? Maby we talk here about individual skills? And you confuse it with “racial overpowerness” ?
Racials has nothing to do with the fact that you can or not achieve a goal (to be best PVP or PVE player). Thats a individual topic, not a general topic. I just prooved you that racials has nothing to do with the content and that they dont influence the outcome of the game in such a inbalanced manner as you cry here.

Here we go again…bla bla…who has a bigger d#ck. Really? You got the bee pet (that is alliance only) . So what should i do now? Cry that you have it and we dont?

But your experience is higher and you are entitled to talk “game topics” and noobs like me are not? Right?

And why is that? Because of a few racials? That you wanna explain? Then explain what i asked above also…

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It’s hilarious really. Alliance was completely dominating WPvP for 6 months, i remember entire locations being camped during assaults, every flight path, you got killed as soon as you arrive.

But as soon as alliance can’t do that anymore they have started crying “Whaaa! Not fair! I wanna 10vs1!”

Well, guess what, take your own advice you’ve been telling us: Turn WM off or cry some more!

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Take a look at yourself screaming and the other 100x forum threats of alliance children whining. But yeah ‘the horde’

Take a look on the forums, you have 19 posts so far. Search around and look at yourselfs.

You wanna zerg, you dont like it when you get zerged. Rerol to horde and take a look if allies are zerging horde, untill then stop crying.

Already mentioned that, because years ago the allys where zerging hordies outside firelands and in pandaria. That was “GOOD” for the mature alliance players like you.

Times change, live with it.

No, we shall stay getting zerged by casuals who think they pvp with 10 world buffs on them and while chasing 5v1 low geared toons. Yeap “the dream”

You realize that orcs use medallion and humans relentless? Plus human gets a bonus flat increase to all stats? Whats the difference here lol

At least for pvp your racial whining nelf is alot better than troll’s racial. For mythic jaina maybe not.

The human racial was nerfed when the alliance itself started whining about it, people was forced to play human to get rating. People didnt like that, yet was nerfed after 8 years not because horde wanted it but because BOTH didnt wanted it.

Alliance forum warriors seem to forget they dominated each and every PVP secrtion for 15 years, now that arena wise both factions are equal with alliance being a tad higher, with alliance being higher on RBG’s they whine like desperate children for Wpvp.

What else you alliance guys gonna whine for? Sets? Wpvp? PVE? M+? Racials? You covered it all, pretty soon you gonna whine theres an orc outside blizzards headquarters and not human = imbalance+bias.

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We just ‘won’ Batthe for Nazjatar 3000 to ~6.

There was not a single alliance around to kill so noone got rewards/credit for the event (some people kept switching shards to find their ‘special snowflake’).

Anyone thinks this is good design? Is it good for either faction?

The snowball effect is now out of control and an overwhelming majority is playing Horde - for convenience, a larger pool of players to choose from, for the ‘cool’ factor.

Everyone should turn WM off to teach Blizzard a lesson.

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Please give this man a beer,3 shaman lady dancers and bowl of popcorn …he deserve it! :+1::joy:

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Oh I broke today, entered Nazjatar after half past twelve and instantly enormous lag from a 40+ Horde raid camp… Even the NPCs resoponded slowely. The moment they won (3000-110) they all phased out again, yes it’s broken and any defending it just cares for the free wins or actually finds it fun to steamroll it like this…

Aside spent 2 hours in Mechagon playing as intended and every rare gets snatched up by Horde. They are taking pity on the few Alliance left (well most) by simply not even bothering killing us anymore.

Ladies and Gentlemen welcome to Hordegon (WM in mechagon) and if it’s Nazjatar Raid Mode or 40vs0.

Depending on the activity Horde has 2.5 or even 3+ more groups active as Alliance, at odd hours our FG is nearly empty for anything. But hey I guess Blizzard is enjoying the money people pay to transfer their guilds and chars to Horde.

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Thank you! Exactly what i‘m trying to say all the time. But as alliance you get pwned in forum.

I hope for a fast solution.

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Hey Rondakungfu, can you make me a snowflake to easyer write your name?

Whats wrong with haveing 19 Posts. New Forum. And its Charbased. And as I saied somewhere i post mostly in German forums.

About zerging: No thats not true - not always. And it is part of a Warmode. The different is: is the zerg balanced overall or not. If you lose all zergings only cause there is only horde around in one shard - or opposide - its not like it was planned.

And dont tell me again cause in year whatever it was bad for one side we have to continue like this. Get over it that it was like it was back then. I and even blizzard cant change it. But instead of just change it now to opposide take the chance to balance it out. Cause this was a reason for blizz for Warmode. That it is possible to balance the OPVP without balancing every single server.

Both fractions are whining all the time in forum. Its the only way we have if we want blizzard to see that something is not working.

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Roll a horde
Open WM
See for yourself.

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Ok. My bad. I play on Argent Dawn.If realm population does not make a difference in open world, why is alliance dominating the open world?

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They are not. Perhaps in some shards, but overall they do not dominate anything.

Now, the RP realms are ofc in seperate shards afaik, so sure, there they may dominate.

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OP looks like hes 12 if u read his posts… i dunno why people even bother replying…

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I have Hordechar. A Bloodelfmonkheal. And yes - to see what i get if i win this Event i just pushed him trouht Nazjatar to unlock the Event. I played it 2 times. First time i did not even group up. I just stand on alliance base and healed someone who killed alliance. Then we had to wait… 14 Minutes that Hordepoints went to 3000. and win.

Next event i joined lot of Groups. I found 2 Shards where alliance dominated. 2 in word: TWO. And i joined 11 Times in Groups where Horde dominated and were alone in the Shards. In chat: did someone see a alliance? - so the ppl began to shardhopping to get one kill to go back to winning sharding.

If you‘r really fast as alliance there are also groups for Alliance. But you have to be really fast cause the few Groups exist are full in seconds.

So the problem is overpopulation Horde, next problem is Shardhopping / shards in general. An the few Shards they would be may balanced are not cause of grouping until domination.

Not only horde does it. If you dont do it you can not have a challenging fight in a lot of shards. I never saw a Shard where it was about +-100 points and one site strikes back.

My fazit is: it‘s boring. Its no challenge. Its broken. No fun (not even on Hordeside) even if i win these Event with no action. To roll over the opposite fraction is same as fun as been overrolled. None.

So if someone is really happy with that kind of warmode, then yes enjoy it. But i could imagine there are more who would enjoy at least a fight for the win - not just one kill in a other shard.

Hope to #fixwarmode soon

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Its a roller coaster nothing more.
Patch 8.0 - > Horde mode. Allies “cry”
Patch 8.1.5-> The quest thingy for allies. Horde “cry”.
Patch 8.2 - > The sharding issue. Allies “cry”.
Patch 8.3 -> Most likely horde will “cry” for some reason probs.

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good luck on having a conversation with this guy lmao