Why cry now?

PVP War Mode and World PvP
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Dear alliance…do you remember the “famous” AOO from march this year, right after patch 8.1.5 ? During that AOO, for a entire week, you camped/ganked/wiped/destroyed everything in your path : world quest locations, invasions, Vulpera and Tortolan villages, Zuldazar port…even pet battle world quests. But what pissed me off back then was not that you where destroying everything in your path, but the duration. One time there was a full raid and camped a invasion for 6 hours. 6 hours you stood there and killed everything in your path. There was a day when i couldnt even complete missions, because the port was camped by a full raid and they waiting on the ship. That raid camped the port for almost 8h that day. 8h? Really? How much “evil” you need to have to do something like that? Not to mention pacience.
Why didnt you guys came then to cry on forums how “unbalanced” and “unfair” the sharding is?
When me and some other horde colleagues started topics on forum, complaining how “destructive” and “unfair” your behaviour is, you guys came and replied: “turn off WM” or “you are too noob” or “make a LFG” .
So my question is: after all you’ve done in the past, how do you even have the audacity to come and complain NOW about a thing that you started it ?
I hope now you will understand, how it feels when you fight alone vs 10 and you cant do nothing…except turning WM off.

P.S. The wheel has turned. Payback is a bitc.h. I enjoy it a lot when i see alliance “whiners” coming to complain. Go, go…complain more …cats.

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The thing is, whatever happens in this game, someone will come to the forums and complain about it. People love to complain.

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And you still don’t understand how it is to play a faction who is in quite a minority most of the time :slight_smile:

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Comon this argue gets really boring.
This quest was implementet cause Blizzard failed.
First with sharding issues so alliance turned warmode off the time pre 8.1.
What happens now and what happend pre 8.1 was exactly what happend for first twi Weeks of this quest. But horde was mass-whining and blizzard changed.

Bfa started in Aug 2018? So u got 7 Month of free 10% Bonus. And this is not even your fault. Its cause Blizzard implement PVE Bonis into warmode. This is the failure.

I dont understand the „ohh why u all whining“ - we play a game! And to have fun together (yeah also in PVP) we need a fix of that situation.

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Because your intelligence is below minimum req to comprehend basic logic, try read what i write bellow. Maby you enlighten yourself and become more “intelligent” .

So you want to tell me that pre 8.1 sharding was in favor for horde, then in 8.1.5 during that famous AOO, the sharding was in favor for alliance and now, in 8.2 the sharding is in favor for horde? That is want you want to explain? Mate do you read yourself what you write?

What they changed? You still received a few more AOO after that one from march, your bonus is still higher than ours…so whats changed?

Well, ofc is not our foult that alliance refused to enable WM. What i wonder is why the alliance didnt refused to enable WM in march? Though question? Right?
We all know that you got the players to war with the horde. All statistic sites say that per total, in EU region, the faction ratio is balanced. So why the alliance players dont enable WM and why use it as a blackmail tool to force Blizz give more bonus/AOO and so on?

You’re right. We play a game and we must make it in such a way to be enjoyable by everyone, both factions. But, what you did in march, that repeated rampage for hours,days,a full week, wasnt enjoyable by us. Only you (the alliance) received the “joy” : rewards, HKs, more bonus, satisfaction,etc. We received a disrupted gameplay where we where forced to even turn off WM so that we can play the game. And now you come to ask for equallity?

The only fix, to clean this WM enviroment and make it better, is to remove ALL bonuses and quests that reward PVE content (AP, gear, etc). And Blizz wont do it, because they know that if they remove all rewards, the WM population will decrease with 60-80%.

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Hey again,

Last part i sign 100% remove all the s.hit on both sides. No PVE Bonuses as well for PVP event. Only PVP related rewards.

Belive me - it was like for Horde i. 8.1.5 for whole Alliance from beginning of BFA until they implemented this quest.

First thing is: Ion told that there was an issue in sharding. We heard 7 Month everytime to deactivate WM from Blizzard and from Players. We had to read what kind of noobs we are and and. So i can understand it was a great time for lot of Allianceplayers to tell Horde „make WM off“ cause they heard it 7 month long from horde. Believe me again: horde did the same (i know without quest - but that makes it not really better) before 8.1. you got camped and killed on every possible way. Sometimes i got killed and was not landed finally on a flightpoint. The guardians in Dazelor got buffed. In Boralus there are no Guardians except u fight the alliance on the Ship. If you go in our trading-area u can make what u want.

Dont get me wrong - in the main-points we match - but it was mot fair for both sides. I was only on alliance - so i got more trouble with warmode from bfa start till now then horde got. It was never a good idea to just put more rewards in ( the % bonus for underdog ok - but even that is not worth get ganked over 2 hours if you dont like pvp)

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Because many teenagers choose to play alliance, its kinda of a WoW starter pack for some. They solution is forum whine to everything.

Dont forget to add that pre Legion there was no WM on or off and that was what the alliance always was on, zerging capitals of horde infested pvp servers with their alt on that server that allowed them to server hop or with the ganking groups even in pandaria to people that done their pet battles.

Times change, you cant control what server youre ganking.
Times change, you are not the dominant faction anymore after 10 years+ of pure dominance.

But just because these forum children whine all around and about everything that doesnt mean all alliance players are same with them :wink:

Cheers

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My intellect? Well, my intellect is in no way connected to your incomplete view on the whole WM system including sharding.

The highlighted part simply shows that you have no idea how it was. 8.0 till 8.1(.5) was completely dominated by the Horde. Free 10% buff vs always slaughtered wherever you go.

Then it swapped for a week or 2, new item from AOO heuj. Now it goes back n forth ish - although on my Horde char I barely ever come across Alliance in the new zones. So laugh as much as you want, but that is in the end ALSO a problem for the Horde :slight_smile: .

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I really try my best to stay nice but here i just can say:
Thank you - you made me much more younger as i am
Second: about whining - stop always try to hide it! Horde was whining a lot in this expansion. And blizzard fixed things really fast. AOO Quest with 400er item? Forums went full of whining horde cause of the item and cause of you could not play in WM. Blizzard fixed it. (No raidgroups - no 400item anymore.)

Same happend to the Guardians - and they got buffed. (Hordeside)

Racials got nerfed from allies cause horde whined a lot.

BUT i still think we dont have to fight in forum ourself - at least its no fun for playing pvp - not even for the dominat part in a shard- cause u have no challenging fights. Blizzard need to fix warmode issues.

Dont forget: no alliance in WM no PVP - then i want to hear your argue what the challenge is - ir you‘r scared you cant get free 10% bonus next few month? :slight_smile:

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Dont know what that means. BUt ok im happy you will live longer with my input.

If you check around the forums there is a huge amount of nelf druuds whining about everything and everyone and specially about sylvanas-nathanos that burned down their precious tree while horde had to just stand still and say nothing while alliance was getting their special snowflake 400 ilvl item right? I think you get it wrong.

You do know that alliance has the best racials atm right?
Horde racials was nerfed not the alliance. The only alliance racial that was nerfed was the human one that was disgustingly OP and nerfed because alliance themselves whined about it because they had to play human to push pvp rating.

I dont care about your issues becauase 5 years ago i was getting ganked by a whole alliance zerg while doing pet battles or outside firelands. Learn how to live with it as i did and never forum whined about it.

I am not getting any free bonuses because i have the WM off, no matter what you guys cry about here whenever i turned it on was ganked but zergs that chased me all drustvar upside down. Now in your special unicorn snowflake world anything can happen.

Cheers!

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I feel sorry for you that you got ganked 5 years ago. I really have to hide my tears right now. I git ganked 11 Years ago on a real pvp server for several days. I never can forget - i really know how you feel.

You see where it goes when we start like that. If you turned off wm whats your intention to comment on posts from players they hope that these issues get fixed so a Warmode can be a challenege and a good game? I dont really get it.

Who is still interested what happend 5 years ago? We‘r in BFA right now - and Situation right now happens.

I‘m pretty sure the forums 5 years ago were full of ppl screaming cause the gankings - and Ou know what? Ganking is boring. I just do it for some kind of 20 minutes if same player start fight against me again and again.

And again: why always fight opposide fraction in forum - at least both of them wants a better game - what it at the moment nit is tbh.

Stay calm and i hope that you can let go these expirience u had 5 years ago.

Best of luck

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I forgot: the forumwhiners are cause blizzar tells everyone im customersevice to go to forum. So what i should do then?

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That is exactly how i feel about all the alliance WPVP whiners. Welcome in to my world and have a nice stay in.

Dont you get that no matter what the faction is you always get zerged? Get in touch with reality. Its not alliance that has a hard day and evil horde menace is upon them… Its same for all.

None of them whined because the answer was simple: You dont like to get ganked? Reroll to a pve server. Same for now, you dont wanna get zerged? GO WM OFF and have another nice day xD

Alliance wants special snowflake rewards to enter WM and when they get it they whine because horde has zergs as well now.

I havent had any bad experience and certenly i havent whined about it like you guys do, just in case that this is the smastest thing a whiner like you can answer along with my tears just because i mentioned it was like that before… Imagine if me mentioning it once is tears, then the whole forum right now is a sea of alliance tears like yours.

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OP just admit, you don’t WPvP, any solution that gets mentioned or implemented to restore balance you call destroying fun. Well have fun in your 10:1 H:A shards. I appreciate the Horde who admit that WM atm doesn’t work, for both factions. They have a lack of opponents and we get overwhelmed… No that 9.1% (rounded up from 10/110*100) really doesn’t cut the masisve amount of time I lose, nor all the rares I never get to kill. You don’t mind it, you play Horde. You should mind, because WM is about a more or less equalized playing field, basicly a permament open air AV. Not this endless we Horde crush the few Alliance players left 24/7 and when they dare to complain about the imbalance we tell them to turn WM off.

I hope for people like you all Alliance just turn it off in protest, “But I can’t get credit for the Nazjatar event!”. Wait those threads are all over the forums already.

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Some players like @Rondakungfu dont get it. It’s time waste to explain. The Horde always will scream that somewhere somehow was a issue outnumbered whatever.
They always go to the trane “alliance” whant snowfleaks -but at the end this is not true.
At least me - i want a good pvp thing in open world - and as long sharding suc.ks its not the same situation like years before.

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this guy is a hopeless case

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You play on Neptulon? Have you checked your realm and server faction balance…

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:man_facepalming:

When do people get that Realm(group) balance is irrelevant for the open world?

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Never! They will get that never. The thing is: horde also dont get its not the old way of PVP with the same server situation. So they think its ok like it is and looking it as a payback for the AOO weeks and the last 10 Years.

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Due to past experience when AOO was added to the game and the huge increase of Alliance players at incursion zones we know that this faction has the number to pvp against the Horde.

It’s their choice to NOT ENABLE WM.

How about instead of AOO#2 just reward ALLIANCE FLYING for participating in Enough WPVP activities? Just an idea.

Blizzard doesn’t need to be blackmailed behind whine at forums. Also Blizzard doesn’t have to handle free high level loot just for people to participate.

Connect it to flying, people either will have to participate or not fly.
End of story.