One of the most socially active guild I have been in was on a dead Alliance realm. The GM was incredibly social and never minded organising stuff all the time. Raiding, fun runs, pvp events, achievements etc.
The other was a Horde guild on Draenor, which is a large realm. They had lots of activities, lively teamspeak and people asking to do stuff together. They also had a social officer who arranged things like in game events, not all of them were my cup of tea but they had reasonable take up in participation.
In my experience most guilds have cliques, it’s natural that people form friendships, those players will tend to do most activities together. In some guilds that means that people do things only with their friends and if nothing is organised outside of that there is just very interaction.
in another game my alts are also getting this
from the same two players(bots?) no /whisper no /tell just random invite out of nowhere
when i play an alt which needs no guild
My guess would be that people were more completionist in the past because raiding gets boring after a while and there was nothing else to do. Now there’s mythic plus, so we do that instead of one-shotting old content (which has never been my idea of fun).
When I was in guilds, I used to encourage others to do daily/weekly fun runs on the guild calendar to different low level dungeons & raids for achievements, mounts, pets, transmogs and laughs. Sometimes we would have a group pic at the end doing something silly. Fun times.
With the content I do, Not once have I needed to ask my guild for help. I can solo them or there is always someone killing whatever it is in LFG. I’m sure im not the only one either. That may be the a reason why people don’t really need to reach out for help nowadays.
Because now we have mass media, easy access to facebook, instagram, discord, etc.etc., we are simply oversaturated with communications in online environment.
Back in a day, meeting someone online was something new and big, we socialised and chated/talked much more. Now when you are even offline - you can still chat with your guild via discord with your phone, so there is no need to have a guild chat for that. It’s just shifted now. Nothing in WoW changed - we changed.
as soon as you are not needed or you dont need any one, it becomes like this. blame world questing and alike for being blindfolded faceroll kind of content.
And there is Guilds out there who do LFR/M+ and alike. its ur own fault for not wanting to take part in a thing that reqs other players…
Its like in a game where you got some content u can do solo, and some content u can only do with other players, why on earth would u wait for others for stuff like world quests and daily quests that u can do alone, while u can wait for others to do actuall content that actually reqs other ppl.
I should stop coming to this forum, my brain gets numb here.
As a non-raider and casual m+ player I find it pretty hard to find a guild/community that fits to me, the guil that is more oriented on fun, social events, tmogs, old content, meta achievements, mount farms, casual chatting, discord speaking, etc.
Organizing things is a bit of a thankless task and with everyone getting older those who had the energy to do that role find it harder and harder to find the time to do it. Add to that the more active players are more and more performance oriented (hence the focus on keys) which makes for less desire to pull a bunch of diverse people together to do something.
On top of that the way we game has changed. More and more gaming communities are build around discord (hence the many specialists discords like secret finding, rp etc), which creates less need focus around guilds.
The simplest answer if if your guild doesn’t have those events but does have enough active players is to try and arrange it yourself. It is a thankless task and you’ll get little reward, and some attempts will fall flat but you may also be surprised at how may folks do join events. At the end of the day for those events to exist someone has to step up and arrange them. Why not you?
My guild is very active on discord with plenty of random memes and poop-posting.
OTOH, voice chat is usually reserved for raids, M+ or PvP - and in those things, focus is required. It’s hard to talk about your dog while trying to time a 17 fortified
Everyone gets on well, the banter is good, but it is directed around the game. For myself, this is fine; I’m a social introvert. I do like some company, I do like to chat, but it helps a lot to have that structure within which to talk, and I need to be able to retreat to recharge before the next one.
I find it quite difficult when people want small-talk over discord. That is a higher pressure situation that mythic raiding, from my perspective
If it’s to be in a guild where barely anyone speaks to one another, then I would rather not have a guild at all.
I don’t like massive guilds because the way it recruits is inorganic (those borderline automated systems that just look for players without guilds matching a certain set of criteria), and once you’re inside, nothing happens and you don’t get to actually meet anyonr. And sadly, it seems to be the norm for guilds now. Huge, massive guilds, where people don’t really care about you.
because most retail players are newer players, almost everyone left game, you can see at some sites there are about 60k players that are active with every day log in, used to be few mills… even gw2 has more, around 120k and new world that fail of a game has 40k, just 20-30k less then wow, tells you all…
well gearing is very slow atm, and if ur into m+ pushing, or u got some goals regarding keys be ksm,conduits, or simpley push, depending on ur skill lvl, you always need to prio gear upgrades until u reach whats best. this leaves little room for other content.
So in a nutshell, why does ppl only do m+, because gearing is slow,bad and time consuming… if was more easy to gear up more ppl would have time to do such things as u mention.
And when i raided mythic i had only time for a few keys and raids a week, where is it room to do stuff thats not gonna benefit me for keys?. again gearing in wow if u want good gear takes too much time.
I played since start of season, and i still lack 8 items from vault at 278 in my slots, not only do they need to be 278 from vault, but also roll the good stats as i want atm. the gearing is just horrible. im lucky if i get geared by end of season to do some real push keys.
And what is the point to play even at that point if u might get geared by end of a season, not to be able to use the gear in current season in good m+ weeks for push, only to have a new season start again and the new llong slow gearing from hell start.
