Why do EU/US Players Still Need to Pay for New Expansions?

Blizzard is a corporation, no corporation understands the concept of “fairness”. Corporations only care about money and money only. Every time they speak of fairness, equality, diversity and stuff like that, its only empty words - PR to get more money.
Its sad, but people are scumbags and this is how world works.

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It’s regional market practice. Heroic and epic editions in Korea and Taiwan still cost about the same even though for them it’s just a bunch of cosmetics and extras. I doubt anyone over there complains about real money cosmetic store it’s normal practice there.

“come at me” lol that’s what you get for commenting in a forum, people react to what you say, what did you expect? Hello real world? :rofl: :rofl:

I will ask again, quote me the supposed “attack”.

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Because its been explained blizzard do not run WoW there Netease do.

Just a quick question to clarify one thing: are you talking against Blizzard?

I’m just spitting actual facts, I don’t care if it’s Blizzard, Activision or Leo Messi who runs the game.

Things are what they are, no matter how much people try to mask it and pretend they are something else (applicable to everything in life) :zipper_mouth_face:

It’s amazing that the OP hasn’t responded to your comment.
Could it be because the Facts derail their argument?
:thinking:

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Okay because talking mad crap about something you dont know anything about is insane.

This is the problem here:

You dont care. You just spewing hateful stuff for the sake of spewing hateful stuff. Throwing around this term “billionaires” but you have no idea how the company is structured. If you educated yourself enough to form an actual opinion about monetization practices and corporate structures, come back and lets have a proper discussion about this like grownups.

I think its funny how the little men throwing megashade at Blizzard non-stop without actually thinking about what they say. They cant tell if the given problem is coming from the service provider, the publisher or the developers but that doesnt matter because Blizzard bad.

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Wrong, if I didn’t care I would be here in the first place. And there is no hate, just facts which happen to not be of my liking.

I know how the company works and I don’t like it, when I say " I don’t care" I don’t mean that I don’t know, what I mean is that it shouldn’t affect the players the way it does.

Anytime.

I think for those who know it’s pretty obvious, developers are just people who work and do what they can, they have nothing to do with this, it’s the big fishes who pull the strings. And the bigger the fish, the less it cares about the game, that’s what I’m criticizing.

Of course I know WoW was not run directly by Blizzard in China. It was run by 9city before WLK, then by Netease after WLK. I played there for years. And that is why I bring up this topic.

There were indeed some problems with the Chinese partners in the past: the late release of WLK, the shut down/pause during DF, etc. But Chinese players don’t pay sub for the shut down period either.

It has been many years that Chinese players get exactly the same content as EU/NA players at exactly the same time. And they get some special perks from time to time. e.g. Chinese players always get the Chinese new year mount for free every year, which cost 25 euro in EU.

I can understand it began as a market strategy to enter Chinese market. But my point is that, after 20 years of milking EU/NA markets, why EU/NA STILL need to pay more? Isn’t 20 years of differential treatment enough?

I know Blizzard will not answer this, because they can’t. What can Blizzard say? "Sorry guys, we just want to admit that we charge you more than others for no reasons? "

Ofc it won’t be solved any time sooner. But this differential treatment needs to be brought up. People can come up with all kinds of excuses for Blizzard. But the reality is that it is unfair, and not defendable.

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But surely that just means they are still selling at an even cheaper price yet again?

They pay lower overall and yet someone is still making a profit on top of what they give to Blizz. I still remember being shocked when I saw TBC had a price tag. I played in the Vanilla beta. The sales pitch was that all updates would be included in the sub. I guess an expansion isn’t an update eh.

As I said, Sub + Expac is double charge.

  • If a players pays subs, then he shall have access to all current content, retail expansions, classic wow, cata classic, etc. as long as he is paying.

  • If a players pays expansion, then the content of this expansion should be free to play.

Which current big games are not online games? Which current games don’t require server services?

People who bought diablo 4 and expansions, should also pay another extra service fee to play?

People who bought an retail copy of Windows 10 or whatever, should also pay a Microsoft 365 sub to use it?

No, that is double charge.

And I am clearly not for F2P. I am for pay subs to play, but free expansions, same as Chinese/Korean servers. It is logic for an MMORPG.

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As far as i know chinese pay by the hour .so subscription cost is much higher

Simple answer: If a company whose reason for being is to make a profit and the market accepts paying for an expansion then they’d be dumb not to charge for one.

By all means - vote with your wallet.

That is over 10 years ago, when players paid prepaid time card. Chinese players have been playing with sub for many years.

I linked current sub price on Chinese servers on my original post. It is slightly cheaper than EU/US sub under current exchange rate.

Hello real world here. Business are not charities.

See how that isn’t defending a practice.

I agree.

It is not Blizzard’s problem. A business is always after more profit if it can. Blizzard just bluntly shows different treatment to customers, and clearly discriminate some over others.

Blizzard will continue to do so if it can, for more profit. And it is not Blizzard’s responsibility, but players’ responsibility to defend their own wallets.

On the other hand, the consumers/players who find all kind of excuses to defend this Blizzard behavior, is just :joy:

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This is subjective.

The markets and what is the norm and acceptable is vastly different. Thats the reality.

If you’re against it the take is “lol how can you justify this”. If you’re neutral the stance is “one size doesn’t fit all” and so on. You’re letting your (perhaps a poor word choice here) prejudice colour your take.

I don’t have strong feelings. You can be sure if they take away the box cost the sub cost will increase. So grats, you’d have won the philosophical debate but nothing practical would have change.

Personally I rather pay 100€ every 2-3 years and have trade post tasks that are completeable in a day and rewards that are free to get then not pay for every expansion but instead have to pay again for the trade post Battle Pass every month where you also have to do much more work for completion. I saw in Blood Bowl III, I saw in other F2P MMOs like Genshin Impact and I see in TESO what will happen when devs trade everyone has to pay for “free” accessibility.
Also I can still remember when back in MoP you had not only to pay for Base Game but every previous expansion too.
Imagine having today to pay for starting another 100€ for getting Classic and all the other expansions too.

Sub price in 2004 == 12.99 E.

Sub price in 2024 == 12.99 E.

I know how it was back in the day. Puny is right.

But one this has remained the same since 2004 …

If you like the game, play it. If you think its worth your $$ and time… PLAY IT…

If you dont… QUIT… Play something else.

DONE. End of discussion.

But paying for the game + sub, spending hours in the game… just to come to the forums to defecate on the game is pathetic…

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