Why do EU/US Players Still Need to Pay for New Expansions?

If you don’t like it, then go into politics and change the laws of the EU if elected?

Or make a petition at the EU government to make them change the law?

There is no legal obligation forcing Blizzard to do the same they have to do by law in China…

You obviously dont use that service.

You do pay a yearly fee to Microsoft. For Word, Excel, ect…

Or better :

Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop. You pay the box + yearly subscription. I code in Matlab. Same thing…

Whats your point here ? Your sense of morality is yours and yours alone. Trying to find logic to it is absolutely a waste of time.

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You know what is really pathetic? paying 90€ for early access, feeling bad about it and coming to the forum to spit on people who didn’t buy it.

Supéralo, niñato.

Most billionaires also didn´t get there by doing charity work 24/7

Blizzard is first and foremost a company, that went into business to MAKE MONEY (and ofc videogames)…

Don´t like their price structure? Then don´t pay for the product, nobody is holding a gun to your head threatening to pull the trigger if you don´t buy the epic edition and subscribe for 12 months (I humbly apologize if someone is, but I do believe you to be the smallest possible minority if that´s teh case, but on teh other hand you should probably concentrate on getting that solved, first, instad of wasting your life on a video game. :wink: .)

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you could just use gold :roll_eyes:

Classic WoW doesn’t require you to purchase expansions.

You are obviously confused by Windows and Office (Word, Excel, etc.) …
People don’t need to pay Microsoft 365 sub for using Windows 10…

And you just approved my point:

  • People who paid Microsoft 365 sub, don’t need to buy retail copy of Office (Word, Excel, etc) to use them.
  • And people who bought retail copy of Office (Word, Excel, etc), don’t need to pay Microsfot 365 sub to use them.

It is either buying the product once, or paying the sub, Never both.

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Deleting a character every time you swap a main and demanding blizz compensate?

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I really woke up from the dead just to see Uda and Punyelf have bad takes in the forums again.

Just wait one year and half and it will be included in the base sub, no need to pay.

Welcome to capitalism.
Guess why China is having none of it :smiley:

You sir are dumb.

I dont regret buying the EA. I loved the experience of questing at my own pace with out 5000 simps camping the same mob…

Being able to take my time doing side quests instead of having to rush through things…

Absolutely not…

What I was doing is Spiting on people that claim EA gives some sort of unfair advantage in the game. That somehow because I play 4 days earyer I will be more OP or something…

No seas imbecil ! Al menos tomate el tiempo de leer mis post antes de criticarme.

Me da a mi que el que esta frustado del FOMO eres tu amigo mio.

Y ademas. No soy Espanol. No se que haces hablandome en Espanol. Almenos insultame correctamente.

Subutal I confused nothing. I gave you examples of programs (like WoW) that require box + sub.

But we could also say : Windows == BNet. WoW == Word.

But it changes nothing. There still are plenty of programs that require a subscription + box price of some sort to run, as I already mentioned. WoW is not the only one.

And comparing the financing of an Operating System, in particular Windows, to a program working within that Operating System is dumb.

Especially because you already have hidden charges to Windows in the computer you buy and the internet connection you pay. And the companies that use it to provide the services you pay for (which also have the hidden fee in it ! ).

Or you thought Linux popular out of coincidence ? NO ! Its because the world works on Windows. And Windows takes full advantage of that fact, charging companies and consumers hidden (and not so hidden fees). Because they can, and you cant do anything about it !

I even read some news about the Chinese Government wanting their Chinese OS and banning Windows. Problem ? 80% of the Chinese economy runs on Windows. Not even they can change that !

And why dont people use Linux instead ? Because all the hidden fees you pay to Microsoft gives them the power to have 10000 devs in a building maintaining Windows. Not 20 nerds in a basement like Linux.

So yeah… Microsoft is one of the most massive companies to ever exist…

All that from 1 operating system that you only have to pay once in the lifetime of the computer ? Yeah… you are being charged for using Microsoft. Everywhere. At every moment. For everything. Directly, or indirectly.

Plus a box fee when you buy a computer of course. Its ~ 140 euros. :slight_smile:

You are asking this in a forum full of geniuses willing to pay double price for 3 days early access of only leveling with everything else lock and will happily defend this model in the forums? Serious?

I think the answer is pretty obvious. The chinese are not taking over the world by being that stupid with their money and that would never fly with them.

To westerners you can sell the dumbest thing ever and they will still pay for it and come to the forums defending it as a good thing.

That’s the difference.

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Everything has lesser or greater inertia, including the markets.

How funny they show “mercy” towards the korean market, a market filled with P2W games and millions players willing to throw money (not to mention a extremely rich country, richer than even some West-European countries), yet they milk the EU players, especially Eastern-Europe players who’s wages are less than half of the West-European countries.

Don’t worry, with how situation looks rn, by the next expansion most of chinese players will be in trenches.
Although yeah, paying for both game and subscription is more of market tradition than actually justified pricing policy. Probably dropping expansion price would even allow Blizz to skyrocket playerbase for quite some time.

Think about the sub cost this way:

An average steam game can be completed in a month, maybe two, and costs say 60€ (Ignoring sales for now)

A month in wow will be probably just as many hours, for 10€

Sub doesn’t seem so bad to me.

It’s the subscription that’s the pain-point, I think. It feels like an increasingly dated form of monetization that really only exists in WoW because it always has, and because the playerbase is generally not very critical of the price of the product.

Paying for a game makes sense. You get the game.
Paying for an expansion makes sense. You get an addition to the game.
Paying for various MTX makes sense. You get those horses and dresses.
Paying for a subscription on top of the above doesn’t make a lot of sense. You get access…to something you’ve already paid for once?!

It is a bit ridiculous in a way. I’ve already paid for The War Within. But unless I pay Blizzard even more money, then I cannot access the game I’ve paid for.

And that’s all I get. Access. That’s all I pay for. That’s the only thing that the subscription covers. Access to the game I’ve already paid for.

And to make it even more absurd, then The War Within is not mine – even though I’ve paid for it.

It belongs to Blizzard. My account belongs to Blizzard. My Online Store purchases belong to Blizzard.

So when I buy The War Within or a mount on the Online Store, I simply pay to unlock access to those things on the account that I borrow from Blizzard.

And then to access the things I’ve paid to unlock, like store mounts and expansion content, I have to pay for a running subscription.

It is a bit crazy in a way.

We’re of course all here because we look at the above and accept it anyway, because we really want to play WoW.

But Blizzard are really nickel and diming their customers a lot these days.

Expansion cost + subscription fee is definitely double charge.

I think sub should stay, but expansion cost should be removed.

For solo games, it is logical to buy only the games, because they generally have less patches or maintenance.

For MMO like WoW, it is more logical to pay subscription fee, but free expacs, because they are completely online based, with more frequent patches, updates and weekly maintenance.

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