This is about retail only.
Why do you dislike bots?
Edit: I don’t bot, never have, never will.
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Uhm … they play the game to get an unfair advantage & crash the market …?
is this a troll thread
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Cause they disrupt economy and overload servers genius
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Ah, i see what you are trying to do now
in that case, im just gonna keep in short and say ‘‘not in the same way’’
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I don’t dislike them, on a way it’s good, imagine you need to buy a flash for 20k gold for a raid night? Cause players like to make stuff pricy when low offer and high demand.
I wouldn’t like need to buy a wow token per week just to managed the raid consumables and repairs.
Never. I don’t want buy a wow token to raid.
because they lower the value of farmed items. the price of these depends on how much people hate grinding them. and since bots don’t feel pain, they have an advantage compared to humans farming materials.
ahh I see now. this is another “wow tokens are p2w” thread…
the funny thing is when there was first talk of tokens, some people (including me) told blizz WoW’s economy can’t support it, and the token will be the only thing on the market that holds value and everything will revolve round it. but this isn’t a problem with the concept of tokens but WoW’s economy being shallow and trash.
the solution isn’t to remove things but to add more depth to the game to facilitate the emergence of expensive consumable items which will balance out supply-demand
When it is about gathering bots, In Nazjatar there were no flowers left for the normal gathering players because of bots. A couple of botting players took a monopoly on them. So that is not great for the game.
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Care to elaborate? As far as I know, Blizzard had three objectives when they introduced WoW tokens:
- Make money
- Stop gold sellers (which basically is an argument for 1)
- Inflate the economy which leads to higher prices and more pressure to buy gold (convenient consequence of 1)
I guess they knew that the economy can’t support it but that kind of played into their hands, no? Anyway what kind of player driven economy would support a system like wow token? Care to elaborate? I don’t exactly see how what you say would help create an economy that works that inclused wow tokens. (And if I say so I mean that you can just play the game without buying tokens and not grind 24/7)
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The wow-token is removing gold from the game though (or at least not making more gold). How is it inflating the economy to higher prices with less gold in the game?
the goal of tokens is to allow players to buy them for cash and sell them to others for gold.
cursed blizzard, how dare they fight people making money from their game by violating copyright clauses.
tokens don’t increase the amount of gold in circulation. unless you claim there’s foul play happening in the exchange of tokens and the sales-purchases don’t match each other. in which case I’d really like to see your evidence.
feel free to check out how EVE online works. there was some talk about it when wow tokens first came in and EVE devs even said they’ll eagerly follow how it plays out in this game
So, you re subbed for 1 month so you can come to the forums trash the game.
You must have a great life.
Yeah, that’s true and is basically the argument against the “wow is P2W” statement. In a very simple way the WoW token let’s people trade gold for real money: I buy a Token for 20$ and sell it for 250k gold. You spend 250k gold to get a token which you use for gametime.
So that sentence might indeed be wrong the way I stated it. Inflation is the wrong word. What I meant is that important items get more expensive but that’s really just subjective. So I basically meant it increases prices of important stuff.
It also destroys the game because it allows a user to simply buy a lot of gold which I personally think is the reason for the rise of all the booster services. (I really don’t care about it too much other than in pvp, which could easily be fixed though.)
E.g. the BoE on the AH are also very expensive because they get bought by guilds who offer booster services.
So Tokens seem to lead to an gold distribution which is bad for the average player.
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on the other hand the average player can now play for free. which is quite important since otherwise I wouldn’t be here.
I dislike bots because…
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Bots are automated cheat mechanisms, give people unfair advantage, degenerate behaviour lowers the gaming experience for others.
Better question, why would anyone like bots?
The good old argument of “cheaper mats” just doesn’t work when it’s Blizzard who decides how many herbs you need to craft a potion or flask and they already take into account the rarity and volume generated by bots when deciding on crafting costs.
But I guess I shouldn’t waste my breath, this is just another of those “why hate bots but not tokens”. Also I like how OP pull facts from thin air, while he/she is probably just angry that no one is boosting him/her for free.
My advice for you is GET GOOD
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Of course. The general idea of trading gold for gametime is fine and if introducing that, blizz of course has to gain some value from it. Otherwise it’d be unhelathy for the game. (everyone playing for free, to hyperbole)
Regarding your other post. I don’t think it’s bad that Blizzard makes money from the game. I personally absolutely dislike e.g. cosmetic shops but I can accept it. I just miss the “omg look at that guy” but whatever, one get’s used to it.
About the gold sellers: Haha I absolutely didn’t mean it like that. They should put a ton of money to police their game. I think they should hunt botters. A very interesting topic btw. I won’t bore you with it but a fun fact: Back in ~2010 there was this big bot. One time they introduced a new mechanism in Warden (their anti cheat software) which basically had a hidden link pointing to rick roll on youtube. They rick rolled the bot devs. 
About your other quotes: As I said, inflation is the wrong word. It’s more about gold distribution. I might be wrong but to me it seems that the token leads to all the boosting crap and expensive BoE prices and expensive legendary mats prices etc.
In pvp you have a lot of boosts too which make the rating system kind of useless. But as I said, I think that could easily be fixed.
I’ll check out eve token. It’s sad that blizzard doesn’t share some analytics report about WoW Tokens and how they influenced the game economy.
How long do you farm for a wow token and how expensive is it for you?
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Simple.
They’re breaking the rules. On purpose. Willfully.
You actually believe that every wow-token gets bought by a real player on the AH?? are you kidding? Must be nice to be that naive…