Clos - shorter cd, cant be removed and dosent cause any debuf like foberance - imagine if you used clos and you couldnt vanish, evasion or god forbid another kidney shot 
generally curious as to why they added the clos talent
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Wondering the same myself… they were already tanky back then
It was part of the “new PVP talents for every spec” initiative
MM got “if you fire 3 aimed shots, your next bursting shot knocks them back further” 
and I don’t think anyone has ever played that talent
I think they’ll remove the rogue bubble talent though, or make it assa only. Sub and outlaw are tanky anyway
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if you compare hunter pvp talents with rog our pvp talents are a joke.
for example freezing trap pvp talent:
‘take undispellable trap, BUT your trap will be nerfed by 2 sec’ take this and this talent, BUT if you take this talent it will get nerfed LOL WHAT? most of our talents are bad even the best ones are a joke compared to rog.
for example the freeze trap pvp talent should improve our gameplay not nerf it by 2 sec at the same time whats the point in taking it then? imagine if cloak pvp talent was ‘if you take this you become immune to everything, BUT it lasts from 6 sec to 3 sec’ all rogs would cry and go crazy.
and that bursting shot talent is poop it should be ‘after firing 3 aimed shots, bursting shot has no cd for 1 min’ but as of now everything is poop because hunter playerbase are pus and never complain and whatever blizzard serve them on a plate the hunter playerbase eats it, even if its poop.
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Learn to read, it’s 1 second, and undispellable trap if used properly as MM is one of the best talents we have, especially for 2s.
MM got “if you fire 3 aimed shots, your next bursting shot knocks them back further”
I have, last season into dks and warriors, when feign talent was still somewhat replacable. It was actually pretty good, since it reduces your turtle cd too, and the knockback is reeeeeally big. Slo played it as well, for that matter, or at least experimented with it. The problem is lining it up, and especially considering we actually use volley for damage this time, it’s no longer usable, combined with a literal 3 second immunity every 30 seconds.
Well, I’ve also taken this talent in a few games “for lulz” and then never got back to it, but that hardly qualifies as playing the talent.
The MM hunter designers have some unhealthy obsession with numbers:
- fire 3 steady shots to stun
- fire 3 aimed shots to push back further
- every 24 wind arrows generate 30 focus
- every 8 wind arrows increases the duration of trueshot
like… why?
Back on topic - please delete the following 3 rogue talents:
- bubble cloak
- shadowy duel
- the talent that gives CDR to vanish, which gives CDR to all other abilities
These 3 talents are not good for the game
Cheers
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Assa wasn’t tanky and they removed the sprint talent. If they remove the cos talent they better give us that one back again.
Somethings can still go through it as well, although I’d prefer if they refixed feint or given combat readiness back.
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cause rog and mage are blizzard fav classes oh and warlock
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The very existance of this talent gives me genuine depression
bring back double tap and the real resonating arrow, glory days of MM
I miss playing my MM so badly sometimes, but it’s so boringly designed right now there’s nothing fun or special you can really do
somehow I bothered myself to get it to 2400 in shuffle last season for the transmog effects, but man, I wish they brought this spec back
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I still love the spec too much to stop playing it, but I know what you mean. It’s a shell of its former self and the worst thing is that it has huge potential and design space for cool new abilities/effects, but they’re not developing it for some reason.
money. it’s because of money.
Diamond Ice is good into paladins and priests, but it shouldnt have been nerfed. It already takes a pvp talent spot.
Going for a trap these days as MM is borderline suicide and often not worth the risk. Good luck trapping against UHDK, demo and resto druid…ever…and against double melee it is literally suicide.
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aaaand that’s why you can trap the dps
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Shamans recently gained a bubble, seems to be fair if others get it too 
When you use shaman “bubble” (burrow) you can’t do anything. It’s the same as DH netherwalk. Hunters can trap, heal, pet stun, etc. Paladins and rogues can do everything while they are untouchable.
Yes but it cannot be dispelled so you just press and chill
And take damage and/or die? Amazing bubble btw.
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