Why do you Alliance Players want to gatekeep more than half of the playerbase from PVP?

Haha love it the A,B,C,D solutions are brilliant and accurate

It cant become much worse but it would become worse or do you have some data to back up the idea it wouldnt make the imbalance worse?

Thats the question to ask the people who think merc mode would be good for the faction balance.

You think it’s a good idea that a dps player has to sit hundreds of hours in lfg and can’t find a spot in a group?
Or the non meta classes can’t find arena partners and spots in raids?

What has PVE to do (which is basically a free loot pinata for anyone) with 370 days of playing for one set? Are you even serious?

What annoys me is that every horde player ask for the solution that is only beneficial for them, doesn’t fix the core problem, and requires 0 effort.

Because there is no other solution. Transfers wont solve anything.

Imagine there weren’t enough healers in the game, what would your solution be?
A: Reroll healer
B: Ask blizzard for a class change service
C: Ask blizzard to be able to enter the doungen as healer even though you are a rogue/war/mage/lock/hunter.
D: Give some kind of bonus to people that play healer to motivate more players to fill that role

Why do you keep mixing things up that have nothing to do with eachother? Holy s***.

I’m well aware that there are differences allready (sadly).
But a system like merc mode means “we give up on faction balance”, it should have never been implemented in retail, and shouldn’t be in classic either.
The fact that some changes has been applied doesn’t mean that it’s good or that the majority of the playerbase is happy about it.

WoW never had faction balance, and who the hell cares? If players want perfectly balanced faction servers they should join a perfectly balanced server. Servers are almost always extremely horde favored or alliance for the simple fact that people prefer to have enough players to play with.

I seriously believe you can’t comprehend a single bit of my post, and if you seriously consider its fine for casuals to play 370 days for a single set you’re completely out of touch to insane levels.

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Trust me, Horde have their gankfests even if there is no BG queue timers. Or are you telling me all those groups that ganked me when i was leveling where just bored of the BG timers?

If there’s no downside to playing the dominant faction, then who would even roll alliance? Look at retail, it’s like 90% horde now.

Kinda like those who want it all and also dominate wpvp and the outdoor world in general?

Who wouldve guessed that nolifing on every single pvp server during P2 in classic farming flightpaths, the open world and even cities (resulting into tons of alliance players quitting) has an inpact on the horde qtimes. Zug Zug, enjoy your 2h queues :slight_smile:

I was planning to level and gear 2 characters for pvp this season. But since I can count on only getting one honor piece each season, I will stick to one character.

“N0t mE I PiCkED HoRDE BEcus I Played HorDe in VaNILA”

“I PiCkED HoRDE BECUz mY FWieNds PicKeD HoRDe”

“I PrEFeR TeH Lo0K oF HoRDe CiTIEs”

-Every Modern day Classic Horde player.

I’ve literally never seen a Horde poster here claiming they picked Horde due to racials and the clear Horde bias in Classic. Just wish people would be more honest, that amount of players can’t love mud huts that much eh?

Personally if they are going to do anything to help with Faction balance and dead realms, being ganked non stop and having such a small player pool with less options to play with people then you’d gain more Alliance support but Merc mode is literally giving Alliance the middle finger as it resolves Hordes only issue while Alliance still have to deal with all the problems of faction imbalance.

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you must be sarcastic or you must serve no master but only Gold and Greed. Of course, faction make sense

That is exacly the same, no clue how you can’t see it.

Merc mode is a stupid solution to a player created problem.
I gave a pve example of a similar problem to put in perspective how dumb merc mode is.

See:

I think it’s you who don’t quite get it. I want solutions aswell, I just think the merc mode is a stupid one.

Horde players have had so much time + a boost to make an alliance alt, but refused. I’m a freaking casual and I saw the long ques a mile away.

Try to pug as a non meta spec and see how much gear you will get with 3 hours invested everyday.
You choose a role/faction in the character selection. If you regret that choice, feel free to reroll.

Horde asking to play as alliance because it takes a long time getting into the content they enjoy, is imo the same as a rogue who wanna play a healer because he has a hard time finding groups.

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Because Re-Rolling Alliance is no solution. Your solution is only one faction is eligible to PVP? Stop beeing so out of touch and shortsighted. Ever thought that not everyone is min/maxing? Ever thought about the fact that faction imbalance (which is a natural thing no matter how much you offer transfers or w/e) also comes with a natural snowballing effect of players less queuing because they cap out so fast?

Should Blizzard now put a huge disclaimer for all casual players on Horde-Side that they cant play PVP? There isn’t a single friend left on horde side who bothers about pvp anymore you could play with, because why would they? If you seriously consider to PVP on Horde Side you have no sense of valueing time.

Kinda like those who want it all and also dominate wpvp and the outdoor world in general?

I play both factions. I’ve friends on H and Alliance, and I’m no casual either. But for the sake of god I’d never touch PVP on my Horde character again because all my friends already gave up on it for obvious reasons.

Its crazy how shortsighted some alliance players are here if they cant comprehend the natural snowballing effect of queue disparitys.

Personally if they are going to do anything to help with Faction balance and dead realms, being ganked non stop and having such a small player pool with less options to play with people then you’d gain more Alliance support but Merc mode is literally giving Alliance the middle finger as it resolves Hordes only issue while Alliance still have to deal with all the problems of faction imbalance.

There are PVE Servers for obvious reasons. You can opt-in to those, Horde players cant opt-in for a quick Queue option. Every Server has its dominating faction, most of them around 70% Alliance 30% Horde or vice versa. And this is still not the point here.

No casual should farm 370 Days for a single set of gear lmao. We’d be close to WOTLK by then.

I have literally never said that.
If enough ppl reroll it will fix the problem for the horde side.

As mentioned earlier, I see a few possible solutions.
Personally I think those solutions should encourage alliance play instead of just giving the horde players everything on a silver platter.

Actually not a bad idea to put a label in the character selection screen, where it shows the current BG que leght for each faction in that battle group.

Then all those ppl who apparently had no clue that they chose the best class/race/faction would have gotten a “warning” so to say.

Not a bad idea at all.

You didn’t get what (s)he meant… Horde wants it all it seems and you are not able to look from other points of views.

Are you seriously trying to tell us your TBC main is alliance?

LMAO

99% certain your main is a (boosted) horde warlock.

You can’t even be consistent with your lie. In the title you wrote “YOU alliance players”

/spit

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Brain dead fotm zombies went Horde and now cry about queues, it’s beyond pathetic.

The only good solution is free horde to ali faction change untill things get better (and not for balanced realms which are 50/50 or 45/55 - only for 40/60 and worse). Period.
-this is something blizz should indeed do…

I wanted to play BE rogue, not because of racial but because I like them more and together with draenei they have the least outdated models. Also I know at least 4 horde friends while only 1 ali(if he does not quit). Then I remembered horde ques used to be 13-20m all those years ago and as BG only player I was not willing to pay that price so I went ali. Seems I was optimistic with 13-20m and it was still enough for me to go faction and race I did not want at first. I am glad I did.

If there was such a thing (free change) and you still willingly stay at horde because whatever reasons then its your problem and stop crying.

-Merc mode harms aliance in both long term and short term (even bigger faction world unbalance, undergeared horde spamming ez losses as ali and then farming them as horde in full gear and higher win ratio while ali has no such option)

-horde vs horde BGs harm ali long term (again with even bigger world faction unbalance)

The only one who benefits from merc mode or horde vs horde is horde. Its not about ali crying about ques jumping from 2 min to 4 min. Its not about ali selfishnes. It literaly destroys even the last small piece of faction balance and makes ali even more extinct in other aspects and wPvP…

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I played orc shaman. Each task you have to share with other horde players, when I had a 1v1 pvp I always emerged some horde player or 3 and shared my honor point, wPvP was boring. Guilds in most were children who do quests in groups of 2-4 ppl. The horde is not fun. The only solution is 45-55, 40-60 limit. Horde posts mostly troll as expected. Remember that propaganda about the great WoW community ?

That’s not an argument for #allchanges however.

The changes implemented in TBCC are healthy for the game.

Retail-cr4p like mercenary mode isn’t.