I feel like that Frostscythe should be baseline for frost instead of having to choose it as talent since its the best choice for AOE fights
when you look at Ret Paladin, they have Divine Storm as baseline for AOE and Templar’s Verdict for ST, they get to use each one for any situational fight
so I still have no idea why make Frostscythe as a talent ?
why is any talent even a talent?
i am in favor of removing talent tree for good, it only brings illusions of choice
make the good talents baseline and delete the useless filler ones that no1 picks from the class
Precisely, if talents are mandatory, they should be baseline… same goes for Breath, make it baseline and add another talent its place… breath is (weather you like it or not) the class defining ability of frosties…
Actually what peoples don’t want to see in FDK. This ability need redesign. Every new expansion - 2 question - “they delete BoS?” and “whats new have UDK”. Actually i never see any other spec ability thats players hate to play and devs forced them to play in it everytime.
breath should be turned into a “consumes all your runic power and lasts X seconds based on RP”
the problem is, frost builds runes and RP so fast that its stressfull not to overcap, current breath fixes that issue (which it should not need to do in the first place)
unh had this precise issue at the start of BFA, they increase the RP and dmg of death coil accordingly and its much better now even to proc runic corruption (if u guys bother to track it that is)
increase froststrike RP and dmg
Its too late, they don’t care, next expansion(not SL) actually. The main problem is that BoS is not rewarded as it should be. 1 little mistake or bad timing or RNG or whatever and u lost all ur DPS period. Second is FDK with BoS feels very clunky and not fun. BoS must be redesigned as WW FoF - thats all and be baseline.
There is 2 camps, both are equally large, you either love it or hate it, i love it, and thinks its mandatory and class defining in PvE…
Make it baseline, or add 2 talents on that line that actually are able to compete with it damage wise…
If you remove or totally change it, the other half of frosties will be very sad…
Again thats your opinion and not a fact…
Thats opinion of many players. 99% players hates BoS coz of this. So many expansion gone and devs still forced people to play BoS. Thats a nonsense.
Again your opinion…
Preach did some research on this
He came to the conclusion that its about 50-50%
I dont know where you got your numbers?
I know where i got mine, and preach is high on my list as believable credentials…
In general you make the same mistake as most, assuming that since you and some others you know agree, this must be the truth, this also makes you blind for the so called non beleivers that are of the opposite “opinion”
Anyway, as long as you keep pushing your assumtions as the one and only truth, i will not spens any more of my time discussing this with you… and even worse for you, Blizzard will not do much with your comments either, turing your personal opinion into the one and only truth doesnot help you at all…
To me pulling off a breath of 40 secconds makes my day, espescially when you realise that blizzard takes the times that its much shorter with in their ballancing…
In general, i think that abilities like this is what separate the good from the brave and great… but for now, i wish you a nice day… blessed are the ones that believe in their own dreams…
Blizzard need only $, they don’t care about everything. They even don’t care about half of their specs mechanic. Casuals want 2H frost - ok, but its much worse atm than 2x1h - who cares?
I type this about frost coz i want to see this spec in another state. Its broken, BoS is broken in hight M+ keys, coz of timings, RNG debuff and so on.
Players don’t want to play FDK coz of BoS.
what is Preach’s source of that conclusion ?, and how exactly did he get his numbers ?
on the other hand, I don’t think @Хмв is wrong, and i would believe what he say, not just because I agree with him and I think BoS is an awful designed ability, but I also encountered more DKs players that hate it than those who like it, not just on forums, but in game too
so it’s fair for @Хмв to say that most DKs players hate it, because I’m pretty sure he also encountered more DKs players that hate it than those who likes it
still not an accurate conclusion, but based on what we encountered
but I do agree that that removing BoS gonna upset those who likes it, and for that they should make the other builds viable and as competitive, but that never happens, most of BFA, BoS was the only viable build by a lot compared to other builds
because frostscythe is not the outright winner on that row as it is the worst single target of all 3 talents.
Both avalanche and frozen pulse directly increase your single target AND aoe potential with little to no gameplay involved in doing so.
Yes please.
UH suffers from this as well.
That does not stop it from becoming Baseline though. A lot of specs out there have AoE buttons to press, we have Remorseless and … some procs.
glacial storm should be built-in on remorseless winter imo
the talent should be replaced by the azurite frozen tempest
Frostscythe should be Baseline, Avalanche should be reworked to give Frost Strike a 10-yd range and make it hit up to 5 targets in a cone in front of you, with secondary targets taking 75% of normal damage, and Glacial Storm trait should go in place of Frostscythe. Frozen Tempest can be baked into RW without any problems. Thats how i feel anyway
avalance is already strong the way it is tho, it’s gonna be rediculously powerful when they buff it further in shadowlands…
It is strong yes, but taking a talent to buff something that has a chance to proc (which lets be honest, it might not) for me is a waste and i dont see the value. I prefer more solid options, options that i can control. Its already bad enough with procs as it is. I dont like more random elements in my rotation
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