Alterac Valey. Don’t you mean the people of Alterac would be more Valuable to fight there? Right.
I know, but this also seems more like a forces plot point to me, only for cutting ties to old “bonds”, with the only reason of the two faction system. No humans allowed.
At least that’s how I see it. In lore you are centrally right, and I mentioned Thrall above and others have too.
Why do they need them? They already have a strategic base of operations in the Alterac region, and furthermore the Syndicate is hostile to the Horde and consider them as nothing more than slaves.
I know, but this also seems more like a forces plot point to me, only for cutting ties to old “bonds”, with the only reason of the two faction system. No humans allowed.
At least that’s how I see it. In lore you are centrally right, and I mentioned Thrall above and others have too.
It’s not a forced plot point, it’s a logical plot point. The Syndicate are extremists, and they come from a kingdom that was already shady and villainous by itself.
It probably might be
But keep in mind that Alterac isn’t really characterized all that much
Aiden is the only major character, and he’s portrayed rather villainously
Barring a few heroic characters (Hath), other Alteraci characters don’t have a lot of lore behind them, or are rather shady as Arctur already said.
Because the Frostwolves obviously can’t secure the region and are for over 15 years in a constant war. Also some reasons are the same why they needed the Amani. They know the land.
So this Horde base is not really secure.
It’s more about the people of Alterac who could need the Horde.
And they did try to reconnect with the Horde. But Thrall did not want them back. So this is a non issue.
If’ you say so.
More nobles fighting for their lands. Sure you can call them robber knights and such. Hired swords and some patriots.
Disagree.
Sure, I agree with all of this. But also new lore has always to be develop. It is more an interesting question to me. Why it is, how it is.
The Horde used to be the bad guys, yet they changed with furhter developpement. Alterac could have easily be morally grey and stay aligned to the Horde which in my opinion would have make for a better story.
No. Extremists. They are literal thugs with no redeeming quality who see the orcs as nothing more than animals who should be enslaved.
Yeah an entire country is just full of irredeemable villains, that’s pretty bad writting I think.
How simplistic. That’s no different than most other feudal lords in such situations. Yes today they are not much more. But don’t forget Stormguarde was also dead until Legion.
In fact I was referring to the Syndicate, who are an extremist faction of criminals and bandits who have not shown ANY redeeming quality at all.
And since they are the only representation of the Alteraci they might aswell be the entire kingdom. Like 0 normal Alteraci was upset about their kingdom diseappering and 100% of the Syndicate are twirling mustaches baddies ? Really ? Not like we had precendent for normal people joining criminal/terrorist organisation after a profond disorganization of their country.
That’s what Alterac is today. The Syndicate.
We do not know what part of old Alterac the Syndicate comprises. We do not even know what % of the army joined the Syndicate, and I very much doubt that any surviving civilian joined a terrorist group.
Yes, all members of the Syndicate are villains, since they are a criminal group hostile to both playable factions.
We know the nobles and sell swords at least are a part of it.
More so then Dealin, or Garithous? I doubt it.
Yeah that’s like soooo far fetched, terrorists group doesn’t work at aaaaaaall like this irl.
Given how there is no nation in real life which was completely and utterly turned into rubble and occupied by another race entirely, why do you even bother bringing that up?
Not by another race but another people yes, joining illegal organisations is the most common response to the collapse of the state/traditionnal authority.
TBF, there are cases of governments forcefully pressing people into their cause. Conscription and press gangs were a thing.
And seeing as how the Syndicate was led by a member of the former ruling family…
Just as people did willingly, so saying that 1000 of them are just irreedemable baddies just sound dumb.
No. Joining a terrorist group when your nation was literally turned into rubble down to the last house and its remains occupied by brutish marauders belonging to another race.
And this entire discussion is pointless because after 15 years I have yet to see a civilian in the Syndicate, probably because it is meant to be just a one-note villainous faction with no actual depth.
Just like all the other kingdoms were before WotLK (and even then only Gileas). Or forgotten.