I never really played on Horde so why exactly does the Horde oppose the Syndicate ?
The Syndicate is what left of Alterac, which allied with the Horde during the Second War. Granted it was the old Horde but Thrall didn’t mind keeping elements, like warlocks, from the Old Horde when it could benefit the new.
And the benefits of the Syndicate joining the Horde would be huge, mainly with Humans in their ranks the Horde would be able to spy on the Alliance way more easily since you can’t really dress up an orc as a human an call it a day.
Plus I always thought that having the Frostwolf and Alterac joining the ennemy faction of their race made both more interesting, they were the “traitor” group and also made the lore less cut and dry with orcs and humans on both side because they had other reasons to be at war than just being orcs and humans.
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The Alteraci indeed tried to Alli with the Old Horde… but the old Horde didn’t exactly care about them, and did nothing to protect them from being razed to the ground by the Alliance. So… dealing with the Horde didn’t turn out so well for the Alteraci, and they hate them even more than they hate the Alliance.
If they are enemy to the alliance and they are organization made from villainous nobles from kindgom of Alterac, that doesn’t make them friends with the Horde. Horde is not evil faction that just cannot wait to amass bad people.
I don’t think they are just “evil” people, the Alteraci had it rough after the war so I get why they would join an organisation like the syndicate. And helping them does make sense for the horde in a realpolitik kind of way.
More detailed reason.
They are enemies of both the Alliance, whom they consider their mortal enemies, and the Horde, whom they consider mere brutes good for nothing but slave labor. As a result, the Syndicate is now hunted by both factions, with the Banshee Queen Sylvanas Windrunner, in particular, placing a bounty on their heads - guaranteeing that all captured Syndicate members will be summarily executed
Alterac merely joined the Horde out of desperation. Perenolde thought there was no way the Alliance could win and so he would rather side with the Horde than fall. Once the Horde stopped being a major threat, Alterac no longer had a reason to remain loyal to them. Or, well, the Syndicate I guess. It would be incorrect to still talk about Alterac after the Second War, since by that time it was already dismantled.
Yeah, it just seem like a missed Opportunity for the story personnaly.
It’s not a missed opportunity, it’s the logical course of action. Also the Syndicate is just a criminal faction with no base at all, hardly an asset to the Horde. Alterac is long gone.
Well it is now but still they could have done more with it in vanilla.
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Following that logic the entire universe could be done differently. Given the backstory of the Syndicate given in Classic, there is no reason why they would join the Horde.
You mean besides getting their capital back from Ogres? This would have been a good way to introduce them.
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Yeah that too, beeside I just really want Alterac into the story. At least bfa confirmed that the syndicate is still a thing with the wq in Arathi.
Because blastphamousHD called him a drug addict without any proof and Syndicate is a horde main
Hah youtuber humour noone will get
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The last known leader of the Syndicate was hardly the best ally for the Horde. Aliden Perenolde was Blackmoore’s protege and was allied with Nagaz, who was a member of the Argus Wake, a cult of the Shadow Council.
Except for the part that the Horde had no interest in reclaiming Alterac from the ogre. The only one who remotely shows some interest in that general area is Sylvanas, and she just wants to kill one of her servants gone rogue.
You are shifting the goal. Your point was why the Alteraci would have a reason to side with the Horde.
True Thrall did not trust them and did not want them back. But the location could have provided a good foothold. Way better from a point of strategy than Stormguarde for example.
How am I shifting the goal? My point was that the Syndicate have no reason to join the Horde anymore and that the Horde would not care about their quest to reclaim Alterac anyway. Furthermore, they already had a strategic location in the region thanks to the Frostwolves.
So back to my first question. Getting their capital back would not be a reason for them?
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Thank you for conveniently cutting the part of the sentence where I address that point.
TBF, the Syndicate and the Horde are hardly the people to join up together.
Aliden Perenolde was Blackmoore’s protege and allied with the Argus Wake, and allying with them goes against what Thrall was trying to do with the orcs at the time of vanilla.
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