Its 2020 and pvp players still whine why they “have to” do something they doesn’t really have to do. No one forcing you to do Torghast if you don’t want to, and no one forcing others to do it if they want to. Just because you are limiting yourself that doesn’t mean other should be limited too.
What do you mean no new bgs or pvp gamemodes? Almost every expansion they add new bgs and arenas and PvP means arena for the majority of pvp players. We don’t care about this dragon killing nonsense. PvE and PvP used to be seperated for years and so was the playerbase.
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because wow has sub average PVP and above average PVE content (particularly raids) compared to other mmos.
playing only PVP in wow, is like plowing a field with a ferrari, and going to hit on chicks with a tractor, while complaining that it is not optimal.
you like it? no issues with that, but if you call the game an abomination i have the suspect that it’s not the right game for what you want to do.
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So Im not alone with this… The constant whining that came from pvp players are rather annoying lately and makes me question: why do they even play if they don’t want to do anything? “Durr blizz makes me do m+, durr blizz force me to do 1hour single player scenario per week, durr blizz force me to play the game”.
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Well what new pvp gamemodes we’ve had then? We have arena and bg’s… and? Ocasional brawls, which is not really new gamemode.
New bg’s? Where… mostly rehashed like wintergrasp. We got one new bg in bfa i think… and one deleted. Such pvp focus.
Even rated bg scene is kinda… dead i quess, why?
I wonder why some of you feel the need to trash on PvP players for no reason at all. They like PvP and you don’t, what of it?
Just because you cannot play against other players, doesn’t mean that PvP shouldn’t exist.
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I don’t trash pvp players, i like to pvp also but not as main focus. So sorry if you got that from me… just saying that why pay sub for a game that obviously have no real focus on pvp side. I’m literally just wondering… not hating.
Why pay for a game to play against scripted mobs? Because you enjoy it, same for him and everyone else that enjoys the game. That’s literally all there is to it.
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Not trashing them perse, but I personally don’t want time and resources to be taken away from making PvE features and going towards PvP because I feel that’s a waste.
So if I see PvP players asking for such things, I WILL oppose them.
Also there’s the matter that imo the PvP in WoW always has been horrible. Simply because there’s no balance and there can never BE balance because of the nature of the genre. It’s rock, paper, scissors AT BEST (and -insert broken class- beats rock, paper and scissors at worst).
We don’t want new gamemodes? What’s so hard to understand? You don’t just randomly change football or basketball either.
We got 2 in cata, 4 in MoP, Ashran in WoD and 1 with Legion.
Because it’s trash. The PvP scene almost exclusively consists of arena which is all we want. Hell, even duelling in front of Orgrimmar was one of my main activities for almost 10 years and it’s a billion time more fun than killing boring, dull and easy npcs.
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This is a pretty silly responce.
WOW was never PVP oriented. It has always been PVE oriented, ever since it was originally in development. In that aspect, it doesnt matter if you pay a sub or not.
Because it’s trash. The PvP scene almost exclusive consists of arena which is all we want. Hell, even duelling in front of Orgrimmar was one of my main activities for almost 10 years and it’s a billion time more fun than killing boring, dull and easy npcs.
That sir, is your perspective, but you’re only a minority.
I can use this same argument against PvE players however. PvP has always existed since the start of the game.
Ye but that’s like your opinion, no? For me and everyone else that enjoys it, it is not horrible. PvE is not balanced either so that argument doesn’t really stand.
PvP has always existed since the start of the game. If Blizzard didn’t want it in the game, they would have never included it to begin with. They are not going to remove a feature that players enjoy that has been in the game since vanilla.
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You can play the game you like (only doing PvP ever is perfectly viable) but it seems a bit folly to expect a BiS path through such a niché choice as otherwise Blizzard would have to have so many sources of gameplay reward Soul Ash for example
Bite the bullet, or don’t and live without the legendary I guess. It’s not the first time it’s happened and I doubt it will be the last
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Read my message again.
It is oriented around PVE.
I never said it wasnt a part of PVP but the orientation of this game has always bbeen PVE.
Ok then… why MUST i be forced to do arena to get gladiator mounts and titles… i don’t like arena, i just want to spam bg’s… blizzard should cater my needs aswell then.
No you can’t. Because WoW IS a PvE game much more than it is a PvP game.
But there was almost none of it in early vanilla. It was NEVER the devs focus and it never WILL be their focus. Because the game would be empty.
If your counter to my argument is ‘that’s just your opinion’, my argument DOES stand because I give clear reasons WHY I think it’s bad. 
You add no counter arguments.
What does that even mean? And because it’s PvE oriented it’s totally fine and acceptable that they’re screwing over PvP players after not doing so for years?
What has this got to do with screwing pvp players? Absolutely nothing…
PVP players always had to do certain PVE content to get what they wanted.
This is no different.
Even in classic they had to raid or farm dungeon to stay relevant, let alone later expansions like wotlk where raiders obliterated the only pvp players.
The last time I’ve done any type of PvE content before we were forced to do so was in Cataclysm. And that was only in 4.3. I have no idea what game you’ve been playing.
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