Why is torghast mandatory?

But it always had PvP as well. Why do some PvE players want to remove a feature from a game that players enjoy, just because they don’t personally enjoy it? That seems a bit selfish, no?

I agree. They should give more rewards from BGs. But some rewards are from specific types of content, such as M+, raids, arenas, etc, and that’s perfectly fine.

But there is still a dedicated PvP community, so what’s your point exactly? Should we remove PvP just because you are not interested in it?

Stating that PvP is horrible is an opinion, not an argument. And with all due respect, if you have never done any serious PvP, how can you know that it’s rock, paper, scissors? Isn’t that what PvE is? The boss does something that is scripted and expected, and you react accordingly.

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But it always had PvP as well. Why do some PvE players want to remove a feature from a game that players enjoy, just because they don’t personally enjoy it? That seems a bit selfish, no?

Nobody wants to move a feature?

You’re missreading people’s comments.

This isnt removing a feature for PVP players.

The last time I’ve done any type of PvE content before we were forced to do so was in Cataclysm. And that was only in 4.3. I have no idea what game you’ve been playing.

Jokes on you, You know that be very false… I dont know what pserver you been playing on but blizzard version for sure as hell didnt give you all you got for just pvping.

Thanks for that honestly. It’s rare to see arena only players not being elitist about rewards being strictly arena only. Much respect.

lmfao what are you even saying. When did you even start playing this game? In Legion?

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When did you? Cause it sure as hell sound like you’re not that good of a pvp player that knew how to play pvp at all that didnt whine about having to do PVE cotnent back i nthe day.

You must have missed all the threads of PvE players asking for PvP to removed then. The poster above doesn’t want any new features added to PvP, because “it’s a waste of resources”.

I don’t understand why you people are not ok with having PvP players being able to earn the best PvP gear and PvE players being able to earn the best PvE gear. It won’t effect you at all.

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My point is that the devs agree that WoW is more about PvE than it is about PvP.

No of course not. If you enjoy it; enjoy it.
But don’t expect the devs to pour more resources into it, because that’s very likely not going to happen.

That’s not ‘the argument’ that I was talking about.

Because I’m smart. And I know how to process information.
“It’s not rocket science, you know.”

In PvE each class has its place. Its function.

Actually, it does affect me. The cheaper paths they take to get gear is one off those.

Also, Why shouhld OP get gear for PVP if he doesnt want to play high rank stuff?

That legendairy isnt special… lol

No one is asking for devs to pour in less resources in PvE for PvP’s sake.

It has nothing to do with being smart, it’s about experience. And saying “I’m smart” is not a very smart thing to say.

I don’t know what OP wants, he didn’t specify in the original post.

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It’s really not just pvpers that complain, in BfA when BiS essences we’re from PvP for some classes, there was plenty of complaints from PvE’rs also, when players are forced to play a part of the game they dont like just to stay relevant in power, they will complain, thats just the way it is.

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I just want to say that your twins look huge in that profile picture.

and i wish blizz would make armor that looked that good again.

And I wish they would steal Star wars galaxies profession system.

Yeah thats why i am suprised they yet again did the same “mistake”

Then it’s fine.

No. Some things are clear. From seeing/reading/gathering information and drawing logical conclusions. Btw, I DID PvP. Back in the day. I didn’t get the many thousands of honorable kills I did by never PvPing.

I don’t think saying that has anything to do with it ‘being smart’ or not.
You could say I’m not very modest for saying that, that’d fair.

A smart person is able to comprehend how much they don’t know and how much they will never know, and hence would never say those words. Those are my thoughts about it anyway.

When blizz didnt want HOTS they announced that , if they have the same feelings about wow pvp they would have made it clear by now…

(Hint arena world cup is still feeding ziqo and the guys)

Pfff. Shows what you know. :crazy_face:

Case in point.

Anyway… Let’s stick to Torghast discussion. Much more interesting than PvP.

Maybe tomorrow. It’s bedtime now. :yawning_face: