Why nerf sets?

The fact that you nerfed the t4 guard set is certainly correct, but why are you doing this now? couldn’t this have been done on the PTR? couldn’t it be seen that this set is too strong??? Is this fair to players who have been trying to kill raid bosses for weeks? I tried for 3 weeks to knock out this set to go to the keys! and so I could not collect a set before the nerf. are you forcing me to go to content I don’t want to play but nerf the set before everyone can get it? it turns out those who are now closing high keys with a set are lucky? and the rest are losers?

similar nerfs you did when I pumped MM hunter, healer paladin, heal shaman, ww monk. How can?? why are you nerfing now that you’ve killed the last boss? Is it a game for 0.5% percent of the players? the time spent by everyone else is not important?

I don’t want to play a game that doesn’t give everyone a level playing field! WOW has turned into a game in time not in time.Why couldn’t this set be balanced on the PTR yet? but if you have already entered it, then let everyone play until 9.3.5.

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its like how players abused magetower bugs and killed bosses. dor example balance druid could outrange last phase and just spam soes. or you could cyclone the hands use bugged trinkets stuff like that.

people did high keys with this set and made progress. Or killed raid bosses whatever.

Players always find ways to abuse the systems and blizzard doing nothing to prevent this.

so if someting is broken or overpower they shoud keep it like that cos you didnt yeat got chance to play with it ?

Because Blizzard hates bears!
Why cant they just leave the “unintended feature” in.

I mean - the tank tier is pretty stable.

In M+ the top 100 tanks are spread pretty evenly.
In mythic raiding Bears area already super un-represented.

I guess we got to be bad at both keys and raid.

Thank you blizzard for once again ruening content with your “so called fixes”.

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The nerf was foreseeable, but don’t Blizzard see the damage from SV Hunter in m+?

Yeah, the guardian nerf was realistic (even though it makes me sad because I never got the chance to have the 4p and be totally OP on my bear).

There are more nerfs that need to be done. They did say there are nerfs to come, and I doubt they were talking about just the guardian tier set, which came rather quickly.

how can you be so wrong and not understand anything about what you are doing. The same logs are based on a particular instance of hoa where you can pull the whole dungeon and do colossal damage with venthyr. We kill bear just on a bull**** like that. blizzard disgusts me and I think the developers don’t have the level and should go work on candy crush

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Understandable nerf, BUT should of been addressed on PTR beforehand.

I got my fourth piece this week so had some fun with it, it’ll still be ok but I’d rather just another tier bonus at this point rather than this uninspired pulsating aoe.

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It will still be strong but I don’t get the nerfs either. SL is broken and almost over anyway. Just let people have fun :man_shrugging:

i mean damage is cool but its just lame a passiv damage bonus in out incarn window where we already good at. they could have buffed our single target. let moonfire stack 3 times or i dont know something fun! outside of incarn.

maybe vortex works like dk grip suck all npc in a radius in.
typhoon can push back or pull targets in a wider/larger range.
and for feral affinity i dont know aoe stun maybe

Sv hunter are just good for their AoE dps, same with mm hunter.

The one I play with sometimes does very good ST as well.

Bears are still the most OP tank on big aoe pulls, the 4p realistc nerf is ~10-15% since it now scales woth seccondary stats.
You guys are really overreacting.
If you can’t push +20 key after the 4p set - trust me - it’s not because of this 4p nerf.

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yeah it’s because you got not hunter or warlock… seriously. this path is the worst iteration in terms of m+ balancing

Its not about if you can do a 5, 10 or 25.
The tank tier was stable, why ruin it.

If tank damage is a problem, mabye some dev would nerf ashen by 60% and hard cap it at 5 targets.

Hm, yesterday I finished my 4p on alt druid, just did a test run in HoA+9, ended up with 6.6k average dps with 247ilvl. (Actually more than what I do on boomy with similar ilvl). Looks more than fine to me. With 275 that should reach 10k+. Was using thrash lego though, which is less dps than berserk one.

Best thing of this set is I never lost aggro at the start of pulls even with green 226wep (since I can just barskin and spam 1+5+1 trashes), though we had 265 warrior (who does big burst dps).

Set functions well, feels good to use and solves one of the biggest bear problems - initial threat generation. Ofc it does almost nothing to our 2nd problem - single target dps.
But I do understand that getting ~15% nerf to 4p doesn’t feel good. But it was a right thing to do.

Ferocious bite hit you 6,243 Physical. (24,089 Overkill) (Critical)
(You died.)

You had 6k health left and you got oneshot. What a surprise.

I fail to see how this is related to tier sets.

30k ferocious bite, you ditch out more dmg with a finisher then a pure melee class and you think feral is crap

I don’t THINK feral is crap; I KNOW feral is crap.

You are playing a spec that has a high overall damage profile. The 2-button AOE rotation does massive damage compared to most other specs (aside from the ones Blizz has already recognised are OP and has announced will be nerfed), and you also have very high ST damage.

Feral has ONE thing that does good damage, and that’s ferocious bite. Because it’s the only one thing that does any damage worth mentioning, our entire talent tree and soulbind trees are set up to maximise it. Even buffed like that, and even when it crits, it doesn’t do enough damage to one-shot a character that’s a full health.

Please stop with these ridiculous claims of ‘a feral killed me once in pvp, so they must be OP’ when all the actual data shows otherwise. (And also, please stop with your whining in threads that have absolutely nothing to do with feral and absolutely nothing to do with pvp.)