So first of all they drastically lowered the item level of the timewalking reward. It used to be Heroic level gear, and +10 item levels for the items from the vendor. Now all of it is only on par with normal. Used to be a great way to gear up alts while making progress towards the cosmetic rewards, but not anymore.
And now they even nerfed the XP reward. Instead of 50k-ish, now it’s only 5k-ish which is basically nothing. What’s up with that? Why harm does it do to have some alternative options for leveling?
I guess Blizzard must be soooooo proud of the Shadowlands campaign and Threads of Fate (a.k.a “watch bars slowly fill”) that they needed to make sure every player experiences these amazing experiences multiple times, with every single character. Especially the SL intro quest, that is apparently such excellent content that it can’t be skipped, despite that being the standard for 2 expansions.
11 Likes
Or you know just get your covenant set?
Who cares, you only do it for the mounts and other cosmetics.
What does that have to do with the XP nerf? The covenant set is only available at max level. Trust me, I’d love to do the covenant campaign with the alts while leveling them.
Not really. It was a great source of XP for alts during BFA.
1 Like
Have you ever though that maybve hmmm. We had something like LEVELSQUISH? So maybe hmm experence was nerfed to fit into new level values?
but why? a regular dungeon gives 19k exp at level 20.
5 Likes
Have you ever thought that MAYBE hmm… I know that the numbers in general are smaller than during BFA, and the post is not about that? PROPORTIONALLY timewalking’s reward compared to other content is nerfed to almost nothing.
Take a few minutes. Log in to the game with a level 51-59 char. Check how many XP normal dungeon gives. Now check now many timewalking does. It’s like 1/10 of that.
3 Likes
Have you been living in a cave lately?
I mean, level squish rings a bell ?
It is the result of level squish, there are so many things still overlooked.
Just look at the events and their lousy rewards gold/xp wise, darkmoon fair… in all honesty its stuff we shouldn’t let them get away with. But it happens time and time again.
Was the same with the stat squishes.
4 Likes
Yeeeeees, sure. Level squish has a very logical conclusion that ONLY timewalking dungeon XP reward is nerfed and nothing else. The 50k value comes from early Shadowlands by the way, which is after the squish.
2 Likes
i might be missing something but what has the level squish to do with it?
1 Like
We gotta forgive them, Blizzard is a small indie studio, we can’t expect more from them.
1 Like
Okay, is this trolling? Let me re-iterate for the fourth time:
In BFA, timewalking XP reward was ON PAR WITH NORMAL DUNGEON XP REWARD
Now in SL it’s 1/10 of that.
Nothing to do with the level squish.
1 Like
i dont think hes trolling. what hes trying to say is that they either scrambled something up or scaled the rewards/stats wrong.
1 Like
No it is you being a bit triggered because others used it to counter you.
What I am saying is: The values have been (incorrectly) changed due to the level squish and haven’t been corrected.
We’ve seen this in the past with stat squishes.
As in: I agree wit you that the values are wrong.
2 Likes
You have to understand that after the squish a bunch of the old systems broke and blizzard only fixed some of the shadowlands stuff(we can all see to what quality they patched them together as well). Can’t say that it has nothing to do with the level squish when half of the game is broken because of it.
1 Like
Maybe I should have been clearer, I admit. Also the fact that I reacted in an angry way to so many people suggesting it’s just the level squish. Anyway, this is a good theory, but the values seem correct for lower level characters, and they definitely were correct during 9.0 when it was the Brewfest thingy.
No, it looks like this change is something they made on purpose for level 50+ characters only.
1 Like
Yup, that could also be the reason. I’ve always been in two minds about it.
I still want to think they don’t do everything for nefarious reasons and that mistakes are being made more frequent than what should happen for a company with their amount of staff and experience.
The only reason why I still give them a benefit of a doubt is due to those previous stat squishes they bungled up.
Either way we can just guess… but I give credence to both explanations. It being a mistake or it was done deliberately to only make SL content viable to level up.
Either way its not a good look for them.
1 Like
I believe Timewalking and SL dungeons come out roughly equal in XP per run. How? TW gets higher XP per boss kill so has a lower bonus XP reward, while SL has the opposite, lower XP per boss but higher XP reward. Both give about around 2.5 bars worth of XP when run under rested.
They nerfed everything in SL: loot, xp, gold reward, solo old content, etc …