I really think this is a missed opportunity, in not allowing use the choice to get to 60 in any zone. I’m quite sure I’m not the only one who is sick of levelling through the four zones of Shadowlands at this point.
I imagine one reason may be the loss of renown. Though there is the 60 insta-boost token, and there’s always an option to put up a text warning “Levelling through Shadowlands is recommended for levels 50-60.” What’s more, surely it can only be available to people who have already done the Shadowlands questing. To me it seems like a good thing to add on the last patch of any expansion.
Think of course this is going to be the state of the game for probably a year or so from this point.
(Yes I am aware it’s coming in 10.0. My post is to suggest it coming sooner)
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I don’t imagine this will change until the new expansion is out.
Everything is based around the covenant system for SL.
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Levelling isn’t really though is it, minus the story.
What does a player lose who has already done the Shadowlands levelling?
How about the level 60 character boost? A paid service that skips the levelling. Seems as long as you pay, levelling isn’t in fact tied to the Covenant system in any way of note. As far as I’m aware you don’t actually need to have done the levelling even once with that-- but I suppose that’s a paid service, and again, that makes it ok.
I bet it’s something they can hotfix in, and to me it’d make a huge amount of sense. Thing is it requires demand (as in consumer demand, not literally demanding it), and not apathy or dismissal for a proposed change which isn’t going to effect people who don’t use it.
I do think it’s highly probably a lot more characters will get to level 60 with its implementation. That means more people playing the endgame (say those who are fed up on their main).
Also I really don’t see how it would effect boost sales. People who do the 1-50 journey don’t seem like the type who’s then pay £50 for the final ten. It just doesn’t add up, and it seems rather more likely the vast majority would simply park them at 50 until 10.0.
For me personally, I would feel more inclined to sub more often, as would feel hugely less put off at the 50-60 levelling prospect. I don’t bother with endgame really, but I still want to reach the maximum level.
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All of your powers are based around the covenants, all of the renown gain is based around SL.
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I’ll repeat again, one can buy a boost to 60-- so how does levelling really fit in with that? That blanket statement you make is not only, well blanket, it is simply erroneous because of the points I have raised, and will raise again.
The purpose of levelling is clearly for backstory.
If you want to argue for renown and resources, then we are at the end of the expansion, and as such there is a lot of catch-up with renown boost tokens and anima transfers.
I’ll repeat also again, this could be constrained to only those who have done the levelling before-- but again it seems that doesn’t apply to the paid boost.
The powers and Covenant systems just aren’t tied to levelling, at least not now they aren’t.
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The boost has no bearing. Repeating what you’ve said does not make it any different.
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The boost has no bearing? So skipping the Shadowlands levelling by paying £50 is not comparable to skipping the Shadowlands levelling by doing it in another expansion? Both ways means in fact the following quote makes no sense:
“Everything is based around the covenant system for SL.”
So by this statement you mean levelling. The levelling boost contradicts the reality of that statement.
Why are you making a flawed argument with the assumed goal of shooting down a potential feature which would have zero bearing on you?
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I’m not making a flawed argument. I’m sorry that you want an echo chamber and I’m not jumping on your bandwagon.
I expect SL levelling to join Chromie time once the new expansion is out. We know that BfA is going to remain the new players/returning veterans expansion. I do think Threads of Fate levelling was a good compromise and we’ve seen various changes to it throughout SL. More improvements can always be made on that.
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Bandwagon? What are you even talking about, there is no wagon here it’s just me making a post.
Look, you said “Everything is based around the covenant system for SL.” That is in fact an arguing point you made. By ‘everything’ you must mean levelling itself-- however that levelling can be skipped with a boost, which is why I brought the boost into the argument and why in fact contrary to your statement the boost absolutely has bearing.
So, forget all that because my argument isn’t getting through. I will ask you instead: Are you against the idea of bringing in 50-60 Chromie Time?
Well yea, they’ve already said 50-60 will be Chromie Time in 10.0. That wasn’t the reason I made this post though.
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There’s your answer!
Maybe being cynical, but if they open chromie time to 60, less boosts sold.
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Does anyone buy a boost for the last 10/12 levels though. What a waste of money.
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No idea, but i wonder if less would buy the boost if they knew they could chromie tine it?
I can’t help but doubt that’s a motivator 
You did see the term ‘Cynical’ in my first post didn’t you?
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We are in agreement, dont’ worry xD
They want to funnel people into SL zones. If people could choose to go elsewhere the SL zones would have less people running around.
You can level up to 60 just by doing tinewalking dungeons. Alternatively, since TW isnt up all the time, you can sync with lower level friends and run dungeons with them, XP are however about only half of what you would get in proper dungeon or TW.
Either way, you can go up to 60 without even touching shadowlands, if you wish to do so.
All arguments against having chromie up to 60 are invalid. It is indeed only to promote more paid boosting from the shop.
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I agree with that. I makes little sense to think someone who has levelled 1-50 would then spend £50 on the last 10.
To me the far more likely outcome would be just forcing their way through Shadowlands, or like me simply ending at 50 and waiting until 10.0.
I don’t see how expanding Chromie Time to 60 will effect Boost sales-- those people want to skip the entire levelling experience. It may effect a small number, but people need to understand that business models are not in fact entirely about making a ‘quick buck’ or charging for everything as much as possible (I know that seems hard to believe when one looks at Diablo Immortal).
Yes, Shadowlands will be in Chromie Time once 10.0. My point is that’s a long time away.
Yes, so getting to 60 is not exactly reliable or convenient. Also, not everyone wants to spam dungeons back-to-back.
I’ll say it again that it seems to make a world of sense to just expand Chromie Time at the tail end of an expansion. Everyone has seen the levelling at that point, and it surely makes sense that a lot of people are resigned to levelling alts. Doing end game content on alts really seems like an easy way to squeeze more life out of content that’s going to be stagnant for a year or so.
It must be so that a lot of those people would feel rather more inclined to not have to level up through the same four zones AGAIN. It seems like an easy win to bring that number up to pushing 100, or whatever the number is now.
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Can we accept that at this stage of the game levelling and endgame are two entirely seperate games? They do not interact.
I’d agree with your point if we in the first year of an expansion. We ain’t, this is the end and it seems to me people are going to be sick of being limited in levelling 50-60.
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