NEVER!
Goldshire is the capital of the free world, ya know?
This.
Because a really small minority somewhere in a forgotten cave are offended by even the smallest of details from a videogame made by pure fantasy and fiction, or a movie etc.
You don’t have to go that far just look around these forums, a few of them always lurking around and make nonsense comments.
You mean the really small minority who gets offended when something gets changed that they didn’t know existed in the first place, such as yourself? I agree. It’s quite telling that you don’t even understand why things are changed.
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It’s called artwork tho.
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I don’t think you get it.
The company is attacked on the grounds of unfair treatment of women bla bla bla. So they remove stuff that might be used for further attacks.
That’s likely all that there is to it.
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Except I’m not the one who is offended regarding changes that doesn’t even affect them nor are they targeted at them. Better luck next time fella and thanks for sharing that you live in a cave.
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I understand what it is called. I’m calling out the people acting like this artwork is some kind of feminist celebration and thus defending it is a feminist priority, when the fact remains most depictions of women in classical artwork such as this is depicting them in a way that reduces them to the stereotypes feminists tend to be fighting against. Works of art synonymous with feminist movements and painters are very stylistically different and depict women (even where naked) differently.
Defend it for the sake of being an art lover or a renaissance person, but for the love of god don’t claim or pretend it’s a feminist move for for the sake of women and especially when doing so don’t argue against women in the thread telling you they’re fine with it being changed by explaining how “they’re wrong, because I’m standing for women here” because not listening to women to tell them how you’re fighting for them is a very strange move.
That’s all. (Not saying you personally just overtones in this thread).
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Ahm what are they removing/“fixing” now ? Sorry I’m out of the loop.
Changing two pics in some dark corner nobody seen since vanilla or whatever.
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Whoooa there common sense, careful with that!
I’m kinda split on this one… On one side its stupid and begs the question what else are they going to change in the future (do not touch my skimpy mogs, I spend a fortune on them) but on the other why do we care if its just that… Are there people going there just to jerk of ? And if so why not just you know let them, they are not hurting anybody, are we kink shaming now ?
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Yeah but that’s such a backwards approach, like sure lets say they remove the steamy romance novels, sure less “sexual” content in the game buuut harassment during work hours- probably still happening. Its not like for every skimp mog you remove 1 less person gets sexually harassed during the work day. God i hate this timeline.
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There’s no evidence that this means “skimpy mogs” will be under attack, this is a leap being used by people to try and justify not changing this (small) thing according to their preferences. It’s similar to how people leap from the government recommending vaccines to the government trying to inject us with mind control chemicals or monitor our every move. Without evidence it’s just snowballing.
Regarding the people who may or may not use the pictures for whatever, I mean, as far as reasons to “keep stuff as it is” that’s a pretty lousy reason to do so. This is an MMORPG adventure game, not an adult’s kink website or game, therefore whether people using it for “kinks” are being negatively affected or not shouldn’t come into the equation at all. They’re not the intended playerbase.
I mean some elements of Goldshire are “harmless” people enjoying kinks, but I don’t think anyone is suggesting that blizzard should actively consider this section of the playerbase when making changes, right? Fact is, they’re “in the wrong game” and there are a hundred other places they could go to enjoy their kink in a superior fashion so if a gameplay change or other change happens to effect their enjoyment of their kink in the game, tough luck.
That’s not kink shaming. That’s me going “Sir and madam, this is a coffee shop. If you want to enjoy licking whipped cream off each other, there’s a store down the street that will accomodate you, but this is not that place and this place does not exist for the purposes of you exploring that kink.”
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You just answered your own question.
What do we expect at this point from this company, if they are making such awkward changes nowadays… that’s the point.
Yeah that’s why I said
True, but its also a really stupid reason to change stuff. I mean I seriously don’t care about this change, I didn’t even know said pictures or whatever were in the game before 5 mins ago. Was someone offended by them showing the belly button of woman on a painting, and is the media going to go “Well blizzard did do very horrible stuff to their employes, buuuut they removed 2-3 paintings from the game that only 0.00001% of the player base knew that existed so now they stunning and brave once more”.
But thats the point, Blizzard are not making changes FOR them (nor should they), what they are doing is they are changing things that were in the game since vanilla i believe (again not sure where these even are I googled to see what the so called sexual content is) just because hypothetically someone is going there to touch themselves, and my point is who cares even if someone actually is.
As for what people on RP servers are using Goldshire as… well its kind of a “Death of the Author” case somewhat, what the creators wanted it to be is not what the customers/readers/players/etc are using it as. No harm in that, not my kind of thing but again who cares, just don’t go there if its not your thing.
Yeah but that’s just speculations and jumping to conclusions, aside from that do people actually care about the paintings beings changed and not what that might lead to down the road. Like I explained above, yes i think its stupid that they are doing that because i find it pointless but I am not clutching my pearls just for this.
Not because hypothetically someone is going there to touch themselves, but because someone else much less hypothetically might say that someone might do this. And bring this as evidence of “toxic culture” in the company, and ask for extra charges, etc.
And I say again, that is stupid. Not your comment but the reason for the change.
Like saying “Oh, Leonardo Da Vinci is harasser because we can see the hands of the Mona Lisa, and not only that I heard that he even painted and sculpted naked bodies, I cannot even… We need to build a time machine, go back to the late 15th century and cancel him right then and there”. Anyway I am done with this topic, I dont really have anything more to say.
But Bukachu lives there!
Yeah i generally don’t care either i’m just a bit tired of the people whom have appeared from nowhere suddenly acting like they care about this because it’s an opportunity for them to moan about blizzard an/or “snowflakes” and nothing more.
I mean, with this change, people are very quick to jump to the “imagine complaining about this”. There is zero evidence these changes are being made because of player protests. Most players don’t even know which pictures are being referred to. The likelihood is as Mell said that these changes are simply blizzard making changes of their own volition because they think it it’s sensible given the cultural restructure they’re going through. I’d wager there are no “angry snowflakes” moaning about these pictures being inappropriate, but there sure are a heck of a lot of people getting their heckles up over changing them now.
I mean what, 3-4 threads? It’s absolutely ridiculous. We haven’t had a single post on how anyone enjoys or likes these pictures in probably a decade, and suddenly now they’re being changed we have 3-4 threads of people behaving like changing them is some cardinal sin and “the decline of the west”.
It’s bullcrap. It’s slackivism and people adopting what they think will be seen as a virtuous cause just to shake their fists angrily at blizzard and their bogeymen of choice.