i dont get it. why do these people care if i prefer to do content on the lowest difficulty and its enough for me? most people dont have hours to spend on raiding or dont want to go full hardcore so i just prefer to see the content that i pay for and do the questlines i enjoy.
i’ll do me, you do you.
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I don’t do LFR. And I don’t understand why others complain about it. If you want a well-structured raid group why not join a Normal/Heroic/Mythic, why do you queue for LFR and then complain about it? I get that you want to gear freshly leveled characters, but you can do this in Heroic and Mythic Dungeons with a group of people you selected, you really don’t have to do LFR. Some people, man.
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they are trying to deal with their
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferiority_complex
The act of trying to belittle LFR and all surrounding is well described in link above. They are so uncertain of themselves that they need some ways to boost themselves. lack of self esteem is most common reason why anyone goes out of their way belittle other people, including games.
Here on forums we see it often trough armoury inspection and bashing, or words like “omg, its ez, git gut, l2p”.
Self aware and confident people generally cannot care less about “what others do, wear or say”.
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It’s not really elitists, its just yapping dogs.
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I take offence to that.
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Foxes aren’t dogs.
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If it was that simple, we wouldn’t be here in the first place though.
Some cases, people are just hating on LFR because it’s… LFR.
But in many others, people do have legit reasoning and a point to make about it, not everything is black and white.
LFR is a good tool, but it isn’t as godsent as many people think it is, and this probably where most of the complaints stem from, alongside other reasons.
As of right now, I have absolutely no problem with LFR, but there was a point in time where LFR was mandatory for players to not fall behind on schedule, which was back then my problem with LFR.
Some people feel like it devalues the social aspect of the game, you press a button, get grouped with people you don’t know and might not even talk to, and you do content.
Some people feel like it is a waste of resources, others think the content it provides have no taste and would like it to be better.
Others think that multiple iterations of an content devalues it, for example killing N’zoth! he’s an old god! and you just mindlessly zerg him in lfr while you’re struggling on Shad’har mythic just doesn’t sit well with people.
These are just examples of multiple opinions of people I’ve seen.
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Well but that’s not even why most people hate it. I believe this was case in MoP, where HC raiders had to do LFR in some point and that was wrong. No player should be forced to run same content in 3-4 difficulties (back then was lfr, flex, normal and hc).
That was solid concern, but this is not why people dislike LFR most cases in youtube, or public forums or reddit.
I have never done Nyalotha in LFR, I have never seen Nzoth mythic video. How does it matter to me if guy X has killed nzoth 10 times in LFR ?
I think most cases its just a ‘trendy clickbait move’ to whine about things and LFR is just too easy target. especially, when you (not YOU as poster, but as generic player) haven’t achieved anything above hc raiding and 1500 ratings. I believe mythic raiders complain about LFR notably less compared to HC raiders.
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Probably people think that the " prestige " of the boss is devalued, it’s not my PoV though I’m just stating what I see people use as an argument for it, and to me it does have some credibility to it and I don’t amount it to people are just hating.
I do agree, a lot of the hate comes from people echoing popular troupes and influencers without forming their own opinion.
I don’t really think that’s the case, although I do believe HC raiders have more reasons to complain.
Yet again though, we haven’t been getting a lot of " hate " posts about lfr haven’t we? maybe I missed them?
I do not think we have lately got them. No. Here on EU Blizz boards I think people support more of that “play your game” ideal. But who knows what happens in some communities or elsewhere. I do not really visit any of them, and the little I read fan comments elsewhere comes form links here.
Maybe… but when we speak about prestige of a boss, then we should have only “mythic raiding”. but like Blizzard themselves have explained (back when multi difficulty was introduced) - developing raids is resource heavy. And if you have oinly 1-2% of playerbase ever experience it, then as developer you start asking if this all has a point. And moreso in some point of game the raids started to demand more specialised players - encounters became more complex etc etc. Which would (and already had started) impact recruitment and group compilation. Make it harder and more challenging for guilds.
People like to comment that blizzard ‘just wanted ez moneyz’, but if we are to believe developer comments back in cataclysm era - then this was not “just lets do it” simple decision they made.
Raids often, in my opinion, are finest showcase of developer skill and I am glad that people can experience it. Even when they get it easier, but it is player choice. It does not take anything from me, just like someone else watching youtube videos doesn’t change anything for me. And essentially doing LFR does not change much from someone watching method killing the boss in world 1st. same value. Boss fight is experienced and seen before they experience the mythic kills themselves.
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It’s genuinely just neeks that don’t have anything else to cry about.
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Spot on !
Also ,elite players are not problem .They do elite stuff ,you don’t see them you don’t hear them.
Delusional elite wannabe are annoying one’s.
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If I relog my worgen can I take offense at your comment?
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LFR is fine until people who cannot learn to restore their sanity bar happen.
The good news is that we finally finished off the last of the old gods so we should not have sanity mechanics anytime soon again.
Also it would had been a lot better for everyone in the last LFR wing if the high geared characters could also do LFR N’zoth for their Malefic core. We could at least afford more windowlickers in LFR without 10 stacks
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I dont really see a lot of complaints about lfr tbh, the only times where they really are happening frequently is when lfr has things even the players need who otherwise have no interest in lfr, like tier sets during Dragonsoul or the Legendary from Argus and these complaints have the same background as pvpers not wanting to do pve and vice versa, most people who play harder difficulties do not care about lfr and quite frankly do not want to care about lfr, it is only when Blizzard makes them care about lfr the complaints really happen.
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LFR so you can see the raid and try it out for lore purpose.
You can also try it out a new build or a new corruption combo.
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I do not think the people trying out new builds and combos are the problem.
Only those who seem to feel they do not need to learn anything for the less mindless fights.
How is half the raid seemingly doing the mechanics as if it is their first time in there after all these months
Not everyone has the time to put in a joining a guild or waiting to form a group.
Its 2020, every game has a function of click and join except wow and this why you have LFR and arena skirmish/random bgs.
Players want to play for 1 hour a day and thus they just select whatever content they want and they go through it.
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I can understand that.
What I have a trouble understanding is why is it so hard for so many people to learn to press a damn button when the sanity is low.
I am one of the people who outside of vacations and quarantine I had little time for scheduled content. But I can sit down and learn how the bosses work after like one try.
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I never quite understood that one, clearing the raid on normal/HC with a guild takes 2-3 hours which is longer than a lfr clear, unless you are a mythic guild just zerging through lower difficulties, if I dont queue as tank lfr takes way longer than that, if I am dps sometimes the queue doesnt even fire for that 1 hour.
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