He is a problem. Because he linked a video with the name “top 10 features which made modern WoW better” in comparison to classic, Asmongold hated it with his very soul and because of this “little accident” the original creator got vote-mobbed in his video.
Can’t really say I hate him personally. I just dont like people who act childish.
Same goes for people who thinks they know what others like.
And he is like that.
While I think he is bad at game and bad at understanding human nature which makes him simply unqualified to be any kind of “influencer”.
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No.
It’s because at the core, these popular streamers have a large army of rabid fanboys that ruin the game for literally anyone else who isn’t a part of their thing.
Plus, some streamers are well aware of the fact that they are the “influencers”, so they feel like their opinion matters more, which again, combined with the strength of their obedient fanboy army, can have unpleasant outcomes.
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Because he is a toxic manchild that doesn’t know how to be kind. Everything out of his mouth is either toxic, or he is raging at something, he lives off that, and when things don’t work out for him, as he said in a video, if he gets fked with he just gets everyone to report the person instead of taking care of it himself. A vile person he is.
He has done so many disgusting things to people over the years, all while his fanbase fully support him doing to, which leads to him doing it more.
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Wonderfully succinct description. That’s pretty spot on. I don’t watch much streaming and only stumbled on it initially from googling how to do something. As I commented on a similar thread, the hypocrisy of complaining about toxic behaviour when being clearly toxic themselves put me right off. Still, it can be amusing to watch leechers get thrashed in pvp and watch their ego bubble enrage.
I don’t think I’d even want a beta key, otherwise it’s not going to feel so new when it’s actually released.
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People hate them because they only see them getting “free” money for playing games i would bet lots of money that most people would not want to do rest of the job that goes into a streaming because they only seem to believe that only thing streamers/youtubers do is sit in front of the computer.
I know i would not want to do that i would love to play games but i would hate everything else that goes on behind the scenes.
Also lots of hate goes to them because people are impatient and believe that they are more worthy for beta access.
#latest bandwagon.
Before the Classic beta, nobody gave a damn about streamers, it was all good. But then:
- Streamers got early access before experienced vanilla vets. That pissed some people right off.
- Then you have Blizzard banning beta testers because of some super mild griefing aimed at a few streamers (while much bigger offenses regularly go unchecked by the GMs).
- Then you have at least one streamer acting like a precious little princess in need of special treatment without whom the world would stop turning, and that for many people was the last drop.
To sum things up, I think many vanilla fans feel there is a lot of injustice going on with the beta and nobody likes to be treated unfairly.
I don’t buy the jealousy argument (streamers make more money than me, so I get frustrated and hate on them) because twitch was there before the beta and I never saw this much hate towards streamers back then, in fact none at all except towards twitch thotts.
But all of this could have been avoided by Blizzard if they’d bothered to COMMUNICATE what these early stages of beta were really for, ie: letting the streamers in to get players excited about the game and generate hype.
This fiasco is 100% Blizzard’s fault. GG
But then again this isn’t that big a deal, it’s blown out of proportion because so many people have nothing better to do as they sit around waiting to play the game.
Me since I didn’t get a beta invite, instead of watching streamers and getting all frustrated, I went back to my old vanilla Pserver and I’m having a blast.
Classic is SOOOOO much better than BfA. I think it’ll be the definitive WoW killer and I freakin love the irony !
Which has been the norm for every beta since TBC tbh
Norm or not, Blizz needs to communicate what they’re doing or people will get angry.
Also streaming in 2007? How many viewers did the top streamers have? Like 50 peak?
I bet the masses at that time had no idea gaming streamers even existed.
I find it frustrating paying for 2 wow acc’s for 15 years and cant test the beta while a load of streamers that havent given a toss about wow in 10+ years get to test it, way to reward us loyal fans and rub our noses in the dirt.
They do tho, they have ALWAYS stated that the first wave of Beta invites will be to streamers.
What does that have to do with anything? If 50 more people saw the game, then thats good PR and advertising.
Let’s be clear here. A person, who influences enough people indirectly and do some shaddy things to a youtuber is not okay.
No let’s not beat around the bush, I’d wager the vast majority of people on these forums complaining about streamers, haven’t even seen one, it’s just another ‘Gddamnyoublizzard’ bandwagon.
Give it a few weeks and there will be another along shortly with a different topic.
It’s not like this is the first time streamers have been first in line for Beta’s is it?
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Could you provide some evidence for this? I don’t follow Blizzard closely I admit but I don’t recall them saying that streamers would always get priority access to their Betas.
Why do you need a source? It’s not like I can go back in time and find the post, It is a widely known fact that streamers and select people are given access to the Beta’s first.
Oh so first it was “Blizzard ALWAYS said etc…”, but now it’s " I don’t have time to find THE post". Ok dude.
There’s a massive difference between Blizzard actually pinning a blue post on the classic forums explaining how testers will be picked, and Blizzard expecting everyone to know in advance that streamers will be picked first because “that’s how it’s always been” .
Also this isn’t about me, I don’t give a damn about streamers, it’s about all those people that got upset by streamer prio and how it all could’ve been avoided by a little more transparency and communication from Blizzard.
I have nothing against streamers. If i am bored i might watch Esfand or Asmongold but i am not subscribed or signed up to Twitch or anything. A lot of it I think is all an act, just embelishing and over acting on situations to make it look interesting. Just look at Sodas vids and its tettering on embarrassing. But hey if it brings in the viewers I cant blame them for that.
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The logic eludes me in these two paragraphs. So either they do not have much sway really with the community and hold little to no power to make large masses of players play the game, which was alive and well before streamers and will continue to be so, but then they somehow control the community’s thinking? Color me confused…
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Back then it was channels like Gamebreaker tv and Tankspot- devolore (who now works for Blizzard), What they did was different though they wouldn’t stream the games but have discussions, interviews with the devs and while the devs were doing the interviews you had the Blizzard CM’s assisting in moderating and interacting in the chat streams.
As Twitch got better and more focused they started doing game streaming as well.
As to view count, during the Ghostcrawler interviews we had thousands of views, Ion Hazzikostas was involved too.
Those were good times, because I think the devs were closer to the player base than they are now.
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