You have many classes that can dispel you even have one as a warlock.ud racial is not dispellable that’s why almost 30% of all arena players is ud but yeah keep saying alliance racials are op that’s why majority roll horde right?
Fact is even if you cannot dispell it you can fear then fear straight away and it will take effect.
ud you cannot re-fear until it wears off.there are alot more undead priests than dwarf priests high on the ladder so what you say holds very little
Well the cd is longer bzt ok
Meant nerfed from original tbc, thats the change ally gets
Because PVP is not confined to each server that’s why. oh look the people from other servers I’m playing against has an impact on the system I chose to play where I know people from other servers do stuff that impacts me. if you as a pvper knew enough about the game, you would be able to figure out that in a system of not being able to queue aginst your own faction, the faction with more people would have slower ques, that’s why the ideal situation is 50/50 faction balance for pvp. if you could figure this much and also could figure that people who wanna min/max pvp would go horde, you see why your decision to not pick alliance, is entirely your own fault, and the pvp communities fault, you wanna min/max or you want to have an easier time? because right now, the min/maxing PvP community is what is causing long queue times. you wanna be stronger or you wanna play more? that was the choise, you chose stronger and now you whine that you couldn’t play more even tho you knew this would happen. now there is no choise, as horde you’re both stronger on average and you get fast ques, there is 0 reason to not pick horde and that impacts alliance server populations and ultimately PvE.
writing this whole paragraph as a letter to convince anyone that 1.5 hour queues are fine doesn’t work either.
Another topic devoured by clueless Tartangel and his friends 
Of course PvP activity is impacted by what other players do, but how was I supposed to know that, from 3 PvP and 2 PvE servers, we would’ve gone 20 PvP and 3 PvE servers and everyone would’ve rolled Horde on the former?
I wasn’t supposed to know. But you know what you, as a PvP server player, were supposed to know? That by not rolling on a PvE server, like I did, you could’ve risked getting ganked over and over as the minority faction of that server. And, bluntly-speaking, the whole “faction prediction” goes both ways, so that’s hardly an argument.
Ofc, I’m aware (unlike you) that nothing of this matters from Blizzard’s PoV - they only care about what makes ppl stay or leave, not “right or wrong”. I just wanted to clarify, in unmistakable terms, that if you’re an Alliance PvP server player you chose your own destiny and I will spend no pity on your deserved grave.
Tell me exactly where I have cried about getting ganked?
I think you will find it was horde that started the arguement about racials on this thread not me or my friends.
It’s not my fault you guys are in complete denial I’m pretty sure if I started to say every man for himself is a weak racial it wouldn’t take long before someone said something.
The fact that someone suggests to remove racials for both factions and horde are the ones to jump on the argument my guess is your so afraid to lose your advantage.
wotf does absolutely nothing against a rogue/rogue or rogue/mage team, which is the 2v2 meta.
perception, escape artist and stoneform however, does do something in these setups.
some might argue these racials are the key to winning against a mirror setup.
perception gives you the opener on the enemy rogue 9/10 times (unless you **** up hard)
stoneform removes poisons, bleeds and gives armor, again, very useful against enemy rogues.
escape artist gives you a one-up on the enemy mage.
if there is no warrior, priest or warlock in the team you are up against, wotf is completely useless.
so calm down ok?
ofc alliance racials are better in certain scenarios thats obvious
what is even more obvious is that wotf is by far the most consistent racial, you play vs a fear class lock/warr/priest in literally EVERY game in 3v3/5v5 so its basicly like having two trinkets in 3v3 and 5v5
Asside from that its definetly not bad in 2v2 since you play quite often vs a fear too.
obviously perception can be better in some matchups rm vs rm for example
maybe you think wotf is the most “consistent racial” because all the sweatlords and their moms rerolled warlock from fury warr in classic to pump numbers for bragging rights.
if people weren’t playing FOTM classes like Warlock and Hunter to act like they are good players when really the class design does all the work for them, then peoples perception of wotf would be much different.
oh btw, speak of the devil, escape artist and stoneform are both really useful against hunters too.
Ye right.
But the thing is, warrior and esp lock teams do not affraid of worf same as rogue/mage teams affraid stoneform+roots+strong instaheal/escape artists.
SLSL Lock do fears up to 4s fear one by another, like 12s fear every 20s. You trinketed fear? Oh no! This poor lock is so weak with his 11k hp, tons of heal, unstopable damage and a lot of res! Oh no! You removed warriors fear! This poor guy who relate on constant pressure for all the arena and can afford to take some damage which then turned in even more damage so affraid of you! Oh wait, you will trinket warriors fear anyway, because he do not play with mage or something usually, so you have nothink to trinket other than fear anyway.
On the other hand, we have rogue/mage/druid for who each removed roots is big thing. Mage can die very quicly, because mage rely on that 24s nova cd alot, and also he lose tons of damage because of shatter combo. Or rogue+mage, for who stoneform+instaheal with imunnity to -50% healing is HUGE deal, because it’s 2dd setup who NEED to kill enemy asap or they lose.
Agree, open free faction change, see how it goes then do more to make both factions equally appealing if needed. Blizzard doesn’t do this of course, they make a few drastic dumb changes every few months, they can’t afford thinking and working on it too much. Ah if only they cared about their own product, maybe current Blizz is just salty about the fact all their older games are better and none of the current devs made them lol 
This
But unfortenatly activision do not want to bring faction change for a reasons 
Funny with hard stuck 1200 rated alliance players complaining about racials. If they rerolled horde they would be top 1% in a heartbeat. Lmao
Then what’s the problem with this change? If Ally players are worried about being unable to play the game, they can be offered transfers etc. It’s certainly no good reason to go back on the current solution, and the “free transfers to Horde” alternative is laughable for reasons already stated.
Pvpers will leave alliance, and no new players will come causing the alliance pop to dwindle, either making me quit due to low pop or forcing me to dish out more money to blizz. that’s my problem
Lol, don’t be ridiculous.
Damn multi rank 1 players that have no clue what they are saying. I should listen to Bob that is hard stuck at 1k rating.
an alliance player made a thread (probably in spite) about letting people choose and even switch their racials on the go, like talent specs.
i’m fully expecting horde players to post on there, saying they would absolutely love to switch out certain horde racials for alliance racials, because guess what, escape artist, perception and stoneform are super attractive racials due to their effectiveness for pvp.
i made a post there myself. i would absolutely love to switch blood fury for perception or escape artist as those are my classes main issue in pvp (being a shaman i can’t deal with rogues or roots very well).
go ahead and make an input.