Why the hate?

“Why the hate?” “”“Hate”"""
Well, at least when speaking of the vulpera it’s blatantly obvious. They don’t have any positives unless you like your “pizza” with fur, uwu, snouts and hooves. They represent the most obvious fur bait ever and it reeks of it. Based on personal experience I’ve found that vulpera players are socially obnoxious which keeps piling up on the list.

I will try my utmost best not to play with them, respectfully though.

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To be fair, playable Botani would be awesome :thinking:

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Well, this is the proof im not against all beast races :man_shrugging:t3:

P.S: I’m Delenis

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Draenae in a nutshell. Let’s hope you all will be sucked back to Draenor with no possibility to go back to Azeroth :hugs:

From what I read, there still seems to be some misunderstandings and maybe even willful ignorance for one’s own reasons. I’ll give my own thoughts on some points.

1. "Vulpera bring nothing to the Horde, therefore shouldn't be playable!"

Comments like this are one of the reasons why I pointed towards surface-level dislike/hate. If your interaction with the race is little more than looking at them, it’s understandable you’d think such. But it’s the same as if you looked at an Orc without any other context. An Orc looks like a typical “Punch first, don’t ask later” kind of race. They’re strong and mean looking, you wouldn’t think them capable of building a society other than one based on survival of the fittest, where everyone is at each others throats.
Despite me not knowing Orc lore too much, I know they have a vast heritage of different clans and spiritualism, and that they aren’t just muscle-heads that can’t tell which side of the barn the door is.

The same applies to Vulpera. Looking at them, they look weak, they might share features with your real-life pet, they look worthless as an advanced race. But for those that chose to not brush them aside as soon as they laid eyes on those creatures, one can see that they have a nomadic culture where most luxuries are scavenged remains, and live in a desert where other advanced races (Zandalari Trolls in this case) send their convicts to die a painful death. And while those Trolls die, the Vulpera live on with the little they need to keep going, without aiming for large sedentary society.

2. "What you see as hate/bullying is just people having a laugh with each other! It's not serious hate!"

Sadly, this is not the truth, for however much I want it to be. Over these last few years, I have encountered plenty of cases where it was clear despise/disgust of a player for the race they chose to play.

One such recent case happened to a friend who plays Vulpera.
They wanted help on improving their PvP skill as a Shaman, and asked in the class’ Discord server about it. They were answered normally, with tips, advice, Talent builds and so on. Then when they shared their character’s Armory link, the person that had been helpful and kind up to that point said my friend was ‘one of those’ and went radio silent, as if the thought of interacting with a Vulpera player disgusted them even if the person they were just talking to before such a ‘revelation’ just wanted help at getting better at the game.

Other than that anecdotal case, I have myself been kicked from groups upon entering the Instance following some kind of hateful comment about the race I was playing, with no previous interaction.

3. "Vulpera are furry bait!"

The term “Furry” is very broad and is in constant debate of what it truly encompasses. Some believe Furries are degenerates who want to do awful things to animals. Some believe that identifying one’s self through a character with animal features, a ‘Fursona’, is a requirement to be deemed as such. Many think that Furry characters must be ‘cute’.

Despite no definition being able to be proven more correct than another, the general consensus of what it means, in terms of a character being ‘Furry’ or not, is it being based on an animal.
A Demon Hunter has hooves and wings, but very few people would call them ‘Furries’.
A Tauren is almost entirely a bipedal, intelligent and antropomorphic bull/cow. Some consider them ‘Furries’, some do not, believing their inspiration to be mythological (namely the Minotaur).
A Vulpera is almost entirely a bipedal, intelligent and antropomorphic fox. Nearly everyone considers them ‘Furries’.

Even without a clear definition of what a ‘Furry’ is, I see people using the term as a derogatory one, likely linking the word with the more extreme sides of the very broad community. Those extremes that do awful things have cemented themselves in an individual’s mind and they can’t perceive the word ‘Furry’ without those examples they heard about being brought up to thought. And because of it, they discard anyone that one perceives as part of that (rather large) niche.

I have been on the internet long enough to see plenty of bad things around antropomorphic animals. And for those that remain on the idea that Vulpera are different from Tauren, Worgen and Pandaren, rest assured. There’s plenty out there of all four, as well as every other race in the game, outside of it, real or imagined. Dismissing someone or openly diminish them for playing a small fox-like character is not different from doing so to any other person.

As an additional point that I’d like to share, I do know that some may feel resentment towards one or another race for ‘taking the spot of a better race’. Be it Ogres, Gnolls, proper High Elves (that’s a whole can of worms), you name it. The World of Warcraft is vast and has many different sentient beings, but sadly not all can be played, for one reason or another. We all want to play our favourite fantasy, and some get the short end of the stick, and feel robbed when a new race is introduced and then added as playable. To those, I ask that you don’t put down the players of those races that stole away your possibilities, but keep promoting your own idea! I love any possible costumization the game can have, so if you want that race in, advocate for it! Maybe we’ll get our hands on them one day!

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Keep dreaming.

Are you going to cry?

You’re arguing with a literal sociopath. And I don’t mean that lightly. Save yourself the time and energy my friend. :slight_smile:

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How nice it is to think that everyone is like you xD

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Hold back your words, Sister. You are going to far.

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Wrong. IT IS humans nature to fear what they don’t understand.

And it is ALSO humans nature to look for virtual, insignificant problems when they don’t have meaningful IRL problems.

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is the result of having been a servant of N’zoth for so many time :crazy_face:

https://i.imgur.io/hi0PC3P_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Fantasy fascism, Xenophobia? Whatever you call it. Your friends story is a literal example of them in action to the T. And the reason im growing more and more resentful and hateful towards WoW players. I have no patience for this anymore. Most of them don’t deserve this game.

Hope Blizzard adds a furry bunny race next with wide sparkly anime eyes, Voiced by Eric Cartman. It’s exactly what these players deserve. (Don’t actually do this tho dear god blizzard. let me vent here)

Awful people is why all the hate OP. I am sorry about your friend.

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Thanks! I love you too.

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You DO realize, Vulpera players were and are other race-palyers too… right? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:
Right?
I would be surprised if anyone started to play wow to play a Vulpera… but even if some did, even those first had to do the requirment to unlock them on another race
It is literally impossible to be just a “vulpera player”

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Vulperas, Pandas and Void Elves.

I dislike all 3 of them, but they have some merits that ultimately makes me accept them.

Vulpera
would make a great protagonist concept for an original video game (they remind me of Ratchet and Clank). They also remind me of Gnomes, who are also similarly very out of place for WoW, especially because they’re never EVER taken seriously. Small and ugly = joke at all times apparently. Never mind the hobbits I guess.

Pandaren
A blatant cash-grab market opportunity. Often justified by their april’s fool addition in Warcraft 3. They even straight up look like Dreamworks’ Kung Fu Panda which is kind of embarrassing. Even so, in spite of all that, they’ve brought some great stuff to the game and they’re hilarious to watch in PvP. Pandaria is also one of the most visually striking series of maps in the game.

Void Elves
Probably the worst on the list. Extremely ill-explained in how they could ever have enough in numbers to represent a new playable race. We all know that High Elves were a much more suitable race and the ham-fisted customizations are a small band-aid on this terrible decision. It’s the worst, because it speaks massively on the creative bankruptcy at Blizzard. Even so, I think the idea is cool on paper. A group of people that pursued forbidden knowledge for the greater good and became a distorted being in the process.

What’s this internet obsession in linking mythological beasts with furries?
Really weird.

Like do you guys not see the difference between a Tauren and a cute whimsical Vulpera?
I’ve seen enough furries and rainfurest documentaries to know what furries and their fursonas behave like lmao.

What amazes all of us is how you do see a difference. Your a selective furry in the closet. Grasping for straws in denial. I am sure your going to keep doing that to the heath death of the universe. But yeah… We do find it pretty cringe.

As far as i am concerned, Your saying furries are okey. As long as they are of Mythological creatures. And that to me is being in denial.

Also i tried reaching out to you before for the sake of moving this conversastion further.
We could discuss how the Vulpera could have been improved upon. Gotten better lore (Or any lore for that matter) Maybe a new model update that didn’t look as disney and Whimsical and cute as you say.

But your obsessed with ‘‘Cute fox person’’ And cannot move past it. And I think you need therapy.

In the end I think the Vulpera are what we make them out to be. You could make one. Horde your Vulpera up. Work against the Disney sterotype. Or at least discuss how it could have been done better. But nope. Never gonna happend is it?

No I’m not… I think you’re weirdly obessed with internet and are wildly throwing around slangs.

I don’t think mythological creatures really count as furries.

We already had a race like that, Furbolgs.

Why would I need therapy for disliking something?

I think you’re taking this too personal. That you like furries is fine but you don’t need to pretend to be a therapist because you come off as insulting simply because other people have different opinions than you.