I think it was Mark Twain that said “Never fight with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”.
Well that seems to be the case here and my brain is disabled generally when it comes to wow things.
Also by your logic i might ask: Who disabled your ability to swipe, bot, cheat, etc? Cause blizz def didn’t as they don’t seem to care that much. Are you doing those?
The problem is pre mades are taking advantage of random groups.
If you had pre made vs pre made, you’d see a lot less of it.
2 separate game modes should exist for fairness.
If you don’t want this, you simply don’t want competition. You just want a free ride.
Yes its very clear that you are against PvP otherwise you wouldn’t mind a premade vs premade queue at all, in fact you would want for it, because at the moment 90% of games there is no PvP at all , you can try backtrack your way out of saying you just need 3k rep and you also said that people join wsg premades to farm rep easy , yes its only easy if u meet a pug that is forced to go afk at graveyard, it wouldn’t be that easy if u met a propper premade because the games wouldn’t last 2mins anymore.
You are just a scared little kid of a balanced and fair game and you have audacity to talk about who you would win against lmao.
Still waiting on a relevant counter argument , this barking on how good you are at PvP is hilarious after that many pathetic attempts to defend a premade vs pug no pvp wsgs.
Theres a circus missing a clown somewhere , they are searching for you.
You compared in-game legal activities to additional prohibited software directly restricted by EULA. Yeah, good job, no one noticed the stupidity of your argument. I will listen to Mark Twain and will not argue with you, thank you for that advice.
Didn’t compare, just asked. They give an unfair advantage to some. Swipe isn’t even illegal in case you don’t follow WoW, it’s even part of blizz market.
All the time I facing premades against premades, most of premade games already are premades against premades, just take some pills already
My epic xbow also gives me unfair advantage against hunters with bow from Walling Caverns. Should I have been banned for that?
Why do you care if premade queues get separated then if you already face premades most of the time in a premade?
A 17BiS thought swiping char is ok then, that’s what you saying here. Got it.
Inb4 you come with a smartas$ answer again: NOT TALKING ABOUT BANNING
My point was little ahead. But I’ll repeat it in short for you:
The point of all whiners are fair game, they want some “fairness”. I tried to tell them - if premades will play only against premades, you will not get fairness and you will get much much longer queues. I don’t want wait for WSG for 2-3-4-5-6-7-8 hours only because some ppl think its unfair some ppl are assembling groups for battlegrounds and some are not. You will never play fair game in WoW Classic, where you already have some classes unavailable for some factions, with a different territory for different factions, with a different items for different factions and different classes, different health amount, mana amount, some classes have different abilities, movement speed, damage, healing abilities, utility abilities, and in the end - every character in the game have different gear for god sake. The most fair game here is the only to play in team. In good team, with good geared players, who know the strategy and want to win, not just dancing on graveyard or dying in the middle of the map alone against whole enemy team. Thats why premades are exist and its a very useful way to play battlegrounds in this game. Because good team always beats gear/racial abilities/class abilities/terrain/etc. This is, by the way, MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE ROLE PLAY GAME. Its by definition.
The same way you assembling groups for PvE raids. Why it’s the problem for PvP? Why it’s so unfair you beat Aku’mai with already assembled group with a good composition, voice chat and teamplay? You should be disorganized, this is the true way of playing game designed to play with other players?
It’s in definition of MOBAs too, you know lol, dota, hots (rip). They have different ques for solos (or duos) and full teams. Don’t see them dieing (hots obv did but for different reasons), just saying.
Multiplayer Online Battle Arena by definition is something closed, small, not massive, and arena, by definiton, is a place of someone facing someone in a battle for a show. The show is more interesting for viewers thn ppl fight, not AFK on graveyard because they faced premade. Warsong Gulch wasn’t designed for a show at all. It was designed for a fight. MOBA games started to be popular because a lot of players have no time to play 100500 hours to get level and gear before playing the fight. So you getting this gear and advantages during the battle, not before, like in WoW.
And yes, don’t be silly, you want me to believe if you play 5 players vs another 5 players with a completely different characters like in Dota - you have balance here? You serious? Some characters in dota 100% will lose to another characters. That’s why they PICK THEM BEFORE FIGHT like ppl do on BATTLEGROUNDS PREMADES.
You must be detatched from reality if you think you wouldn’t get a better fairness in a premade vs premade scenario and lack any ounce of logical thinking lol.
Stop trying to make excuse that queues will be longer , all you care about is free REP you don’t give a damn about pvp , you are just a skilless scrub that needs his purple item and wsg will never see you again, stop trying to pretend you are something other than that lmao
You are so scared that this gets implemented for AB aren’t you scaredy cat , how will u get your ab rep if you start getting stomped in both pugs and if u join premades cuz u are just a noob ?
You still here crying? I’m not reading your 8bull$hit, if you didn’t noticed
I am here just to make fun out of you at this point, with great pleasure if i may add, destroying people like you on forum is so easy , its a very nice pass time for me while i alt tab every few mins, and its there for everyone to see as well.
Yeah, but ppl making fun of you. This makes you so enraged and this is why you still crying
Surely must be why you are trying to respond to 10 different people at this point and i only have to respond to your low iq replies like this one xD copium on maximum there
Your trolling level probably the same as your wow skill: Laughable
You do realize that the “massive” in MMO isn’t exactly there cause of the bgs, right? WSG and AB are 10v10 and 15v15. Are you telling my that MOBAs will become MMOBAs if they weren’t 5v5 but 10v10?
And what’s that about arenas and shows? Wtf are you talking about?! It’s not the hunger games or smt. They are PVP modes. Period.
How is this related to seperate ques tho?
You are comparing class/char balance to organizing/coordinating/communicating designs. No need to explain how it’s irrelevant.
It’s nothing to do with playing with other skilled geared players. Its basically stacking hunters and priests and facerolling rep. You’re obviously going to have a bias because you’re one of those classes.
The premade issue is tenfold currently in SOD in comparison to what even classic was like when people actually did have to spend 18+ hours a day playing in a premade. We have one BG that is riddled with trash players farming pugs because certain mechanics and classes are ridiculous.
It’s utterly boring and is bad for the game because it will ultimately push more casual players away, especially with the length in between phases.
Currently there isn’t a problem with queue times because 80% of games as a pug are v premade. It will stay like this until 60 because everyone wants to be ahead of the curve. If it becomes a problem later down the line then change it when more BGs are available. Your queue times for premade will just go up anyway because every person who pugs will just do AV.
Stop trying to pretend you’re defending the integrity of the game and it’s not solely for your own selfish reasons of wanting rep faster and being the meta class for BGs for 25.
And by the way stop /flexing and dropping things in like my epic Xbox, your rep with WSG or how you apparently play with skilled geared players. It’s cringe AF and nobody cares