Its an absoloute Crime for the core tank rune for bears and wildstrikes to be exclusive. Swap around the Cat runes please, blizzard.
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As a tank lock I can choose to go damage (destruction) or damage mitigation (demonology), why shouldn’t you have to make that choice when it comes to two runes exactly?
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because i have to have 20% of my melees in a raid be 1 spec of 1 class as an alliance player. Make wildstrikes not affect the bear, idc. just let me have something thats not a damned cat to give wildstrikes.
Warlocks can be destruction specced and crit immune, bears cant be crit immune and have wildstrikes. this is about utility vs def which should never be a choice.
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Uh-huh, and in the last boss in gnome when I taunt it off the main tank I got destroyed because destruction does not offer enough survivability.
You don’t get everything. Make a choice.
Do you want threat generation/damage or do you want damage mitigation?
Look on the bright side, at least you don’t have to respec every single time you want to swap between the two, you can just swap a rune.
Your problem is also super simple to fix, get a kitty.
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What rune specifically do you want to swap places with? Wild Strikes should swap places with… What exactly?
why would you have 2 tanks on the last boss? (not the point here)
“choice”.
I DONT HAVE A CHOICE. i have to have a kitty. NO CHOICE.
also you dont lose migitation if you spec destro*, you lose 15% max HP. (correct me if im wrong)
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just swap it with Savage Roar and call it a day. bear tanks can now pick interrupt or Wild strikes
To taunt it off the main tank after it does its fire burst on phase 1 and 4.
You literally do have a choice.
And if I spec demo then I do not get the massive bonus to fire damage and 10% inherent crit chance to searing pain (which is our main threat generator).
If I spec destro then I do not get 10% physical reduction in damage, 30% damage transferred over to my demon instead and I lose 15% stamina.
One does vastly more damage which equates to more threat generation which can get insane with these bursts.
The other allows me far more survivability for when you need to facetank.
We haven’t even gotten into the runes yet either, if lock tanks are to do threat then we need to preface encounters with ring of fire and incinerate because our only aoe that isn’t channeled is not even close to hard hitting enough to pull proper threat on multiple mobs and is 6 sec CD so we’ll have to pump up searing pain and swap, a lot.
But if we need damage mitigation then we’ll need to go master channeler instead or ring of fire and demonic grace instead of incinerate.
It depends on the encounter, depends on the boss, but sometimes a choice has to be made between what you need.
Make a choice.
Also I read that last edit, absolutely not.
I like swapping between savage roar for group content and skull bash for solo content so I can interrupt spell casters.
My alts a feral DPS and savage strikes is a must have for me because, shockingly, I’m DPS, kind of my thing and so it will always be obligatory to pick. Invalidating any other choice. Savage strikes does not invalidate the other choice in a group setting for a bear tank. Literally just get a kitty.
To taunt it off the main tank after it does its fire burst on phase 1 and 4.
P1 Hunterpet P4 the tank just kites the boss, debuff will nOT stack past 3 or 4 until he dies
Didnt know about the other stuff past 15% stam. Again, this wouldnt even be a choice, just spec for survivability. if you dont hold aggro, tell DPS to slow down a bit at the start. problem solved. not rocket science. Every tank does that, there is no equivalent for that that i can do with wildstikes though xD
Thing is with wildstrikes you cant just swap of them on a boss you need them all the time for your melees so my choice is not a choice its to bring a kitty.
yeah, cool about your alt but thats a price im willing to pay not to have the rune that made bears viable exclusive with the only source of windfury on alliance.
Why do? You can solo tank the last boss if you do it right, even the 5th boss is soloable as a tank.
The real problem is not that bears “suffer” from not being able to take WS.
The problem is that all RLs say, “Bear tank? Go to hell - give us a cat! But somehow we’ll find a tank.” That’s the problem. Although bear tanks are one of the best in this phase.
True problem is that wild strikes is overpowered rune and mandotary in every raid and as alliance only 1 spec can do this buff. So the solution is add this buff to another melee spec (for example ret pal, horde has another source of this buff - shaman, so it is fair that paladins will also give it), and problem solved. Or alternatively nerf wild strikes (as well as shaman totem) to 5% instead of 20 so it will be optional but not mandotary.
Really? Really??? Then the paladins wild strikes should not work for pvp. That would make them even more OP then what they are now.
I’m already being globaled by paladins as it is
again, all this could be solved by swapping Savage Roar and Wild strike Runes.
That’s silly, you wanna nerf ferals damage by 30% like that?
Ferals are already at the bottom of the melees
Entirely disagree.
Bring a bear and a cat.