Will you nerf shaman or other healers should stop playing?

All dungeon and raid groups write their description “pref shaman, looking for shaman…” As a Holy Paladin who has 2.4k rio even finished +10 key, they don’t invite me for +9 keys. And I asked them why they don’t invite me. They answered “shaman is best”…

And I’m sure Shaman Playing Statistic about %51+ right now…

Do something.

If I look at the M+ ranking, disc and preserv are a lot stronger than resto shaman.
There’s no need to nerf anything numberwise

In fact, Prev actually heals better and more. Has more utility. And does more DPS than a RShaman.

But … Aug exists …

RShaman is “meta” at the moment because of its utility. Not because of HPS. HPala actually performs better in some situations.

So what is there to “nerf” exactly ?

What needs to be done is to stop this ridiculous habit of putting unique dispels. It was horrible for shamans that could not dispel diseases in DF. And its horrible for others now that they cant dispel curses.

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You should ask for buffs to ur class if needed, not nerfing other fun builds. Go to your little hole now and QQ.

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Mythic+ healer class population 10 and up:
47.8% Resto shaman
12.3% Holy pala
10.3% Preservation
8.9% Holy priest
6.9% Disc
6.9% MistW
6.9% Rdrood
The data speaks for it self, look at raider IO.
I’d rather see them buff other classes than nerf shammys. but most of them need a fundemental rework and new skills to be on-par w shammy. and the 20th ann changes aint gonna do much.

Lol mistweaver not meta anymore rofl rofl hahahaha whining people really. Ow pls blizzard nerf rshammy pls i cant compete.

Shammy doesnt do alot of Hps its all about the dispells and this season it happens to be poison and curses, so ye ofc we are great for dungeons.

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That is 100% true.

In fact, HPalas/Monks/PEvokers do more HPS than us and have a massive utility kit like us. But they cant dispel curses.

And this “dispel type” is an archaic mechanic that should be ditched.

Blizzard has to put order into this. Blizzard has 3 options in my opinion :

  • (1) If they decide that some mechanic has to be dispelled, then ALL healers should be able to. It should be Curse/Magic. So that ALL healers do it, and SOME dps can assist.

  • (2) If they decide that some mechanic has to be healed through, NONE of the healers or dps should be able to dispel it. It should be a bleed. And not even Dwarfs/Evokers should be able to remove it.

  • (3) They want to keep this “fluf” of dispel type. Well then it should absolutely not truck as hard. You cant have thing like in Grim Batol where a curse chuncks a heal absorb for 120% of a players HP. It needs to be 10 or 20% at most. Even on the highest of keys.

The fourth option is to do nothing at all and keep things as they are. And this is the WORST option possible IMO.

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Most people think that shamans aint op because other healers have better HPS. Do you guys even do m+? HPS isnt the issue in m+, its the massive utility for every situation. Hello BL and skyfury buff, ranged gameplay(less punishing than melee healers),curse dispell, reinc, Spiritlink buffed and the talents do match with the playstyles. I mean, take a look at the paladin tree, theres a reason that it does get a rework in the next patch.

The spec is just easy to master the basics, to even do +10s these days. Thats why you see so many shamans because its op and ez to play. ( Yeah, every spec has its ceiling.


Imo, just buff other specs. Like give Paladins or Priest Holy Fury(another version of skyfury :P) or something. Additional spell/melee does additional holy dmg.

That’s the player perception, can’t change that so easily. I mean, a Rogue in our group complained after a wipe that we couldn’t make a 6 or 7 because our Disc isn’t a “meta healer”. While that silly player did 1 interrupt, in the entire dungeon, died several times due to AoE on the ground, etc.

Just look over the toolkits and how healers can mitigate the current dungeons, tweak accordingly. But don’t touch the numbers blindly.

Every healer can do a +10 ty.
Shaman in basic terms its easy but no joke there are alot of shamans that just maybe use 1 totem and dont know what the other totems do. I can also argue that paladin is easy even if it is a melee healer.

Im not saying that only the shamans can do 10s lol. Im just saying the facts that resto shamans are easier to play to achieve 10+ keys quicker since they get invited instantly and just more pug friendly since they bring the ‘‘everything’’ kit.

You dont need the extra hps that paladins do if you can tackle it before the dmg windows.

thats exactly the point? as sham you can use one totem and do just as good as other healer sweating

i am glad i went shaman and not disc this expansion after playing some keys

Priest already have a 2 buffs > PI + fort and palas have 3%damage reduction…

it just happened that shaman are meta for m+ right now but pala and priest perform better in pvp and raid so nurfing shamans will only nurf them in two other contents making other class’s tower over them in raid/pvp

Its not the only spec that bring the “everything” kit. It just happens to be the spec that brings “just the right things” kit.

Also PEvoker is stronger than RShaman. In every way.

Its just that Aug exists… so…

I remember having a lot of fun with holy paladin during cataclysm. I played every healer scattered among expensions. Playing healer is not always a fulfilling experience but sometimes some specs are just well made.

For me, by far, totemic resto is the best iteration of any healer ever in wow. In both gameplay and concept. I hope they dont change a thing. Waterboarding warrios to healthy dungeons!

Even the fact that you go oom when you play wrong, is just something every spec in the game should have.

Edit: There are a lot of shaman players? I believe it is stronger than most yes. But i think the real reason is, it’s fun to play atm.

yes stop playing, like i stoped playing my druid in some seasons

Guantanamo Bay Style ! :smiley:

#healerlife

I personally don’t like totemic in M+. I prefer Farseer with Unleash Life. Which is crazy… given how contrary I was to that concept in the beta.

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Its not stronger then any other healer but people dont understand exacly why shaman is meta atm.

  1. Dispells
  2. Defensive wise shaman is strong
  3. Stuns and stuns
  4. Shamans are HPS wise mediocre at best. If they nerf shamans wich i see it comming, u clearly see at the m+ changes that blizzard listen to the crying people on the forums so. Nerfs will come. Enjoy shaman while it still lasts.

The one really BIG reason, why i switched to shaman from my resto druid, is because healing the healer affix is really hard for druids.
Shamis just need to put down one totem, dispell one person and everything is done within like 3 seconds.

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