Iam getting placed with mutch lower mmr players. I have 83% W/L ratio, I wining most games and losing mmr for it… Its fresh 70 alt, but I don´t think thats the problem. This happening after last reset (2.8.2023), before I was gaining mmr as I should.
1st game: 4-2 lose 77 mmr
https://i.imgur.com/NEml9sF.jpg
2nd game: 5-1 lose 37 mmr
https://i.imgur.com/awpF5nU.jpg
3th game: 5-1 lose 30 mmr
https://i.imgur.com/4fxr0lE.jpg
I’m getting really low CR gains. 36 rounds of SS played this week so far, 33 wins and only 1800… MMR sat around 1900.
it’s working as intended. If you look closely, the average DPS (role) MMR of those lobbies was around 1700, while you had 2k+ MMR.
You won 4 or 5 out of 6, while you should have won 6/6 against those players (at least the game expected you to).
It’s the same if a 1700 mmr player gets put into a 2100 lobby for example. If he wins 1 and loses 5, he might still gain rating and mmr, because the game expected him to not win any game.
Shuffle seems either to be bugged right now, or they did it on purpose to reduce queue times.
Check the average role mmr, a lot of people are queued up with people that are 500 mmr below or even more.
Ye I understand how mmr works, but you shouldnt be placed in lobby where all have 300 mmr less than you. Btw I losed mmr even for 6-0, thats just not right 
Sorry, but that can’t be true. You can’t lose mmr if you won every single round. You won’t get mmr or at least not much, but you literally can’t lose mmr!
I dont have screen of that 6-0, but even that 5-1 games shouldnt be minus… Today its just the same. My last game, I gain 0 CR and losed 44 mmr for 4-2. I just cant climb more, I can only lose, thats have to be a bug. Btw its not after lose streak, I have 35-6 W/L and 85% wins.
Picture of that last game:
https://i.imgur.com/NoysJfK.jpg
i experienced the same, as a 1800 i was constantly placed in a 1600-1700 dps mmr and was gaining 6-0 +30 or 5-1 +15 lmao
i have no idea why did they do that for, before the reset it was only that the healers were placed with the ±500 dpsers so as a 2500 dps i would constantly be playing with 2k garbanzo healers who piss themselves when they see a name “raiku” or any other
now it seems like they also expanded the mmr search for dpsers which is so fried lol
Because it never happend.
Nothing wrong with the mmr system, beside the inflation is too low. But you shouldn’t get ranked up in such a lower mmr’d lobby.
So you saying I have to go 6-0 every SS for gain few points, if any ? Thats really not how it should work man Btw another game where I goes 5-1 and gain 0 CR, atleast I gain few mmr now. Maybe it is somethink with fresh charrs. It never happend on my other charrs.
https://i.imgur.com/4szxKlD.jpg
hm thats really weird. I think they changed some stuff to test things out i never ever got put in lobbies with that much lower mmr. Hope they revert that or it was just a bug.
Ok after many games, enemy mmr raised up to my mmr, now Iam gaining rating and mmr again. So it is just somethink with fresh 70 charrs.
Either they changed something due to ppl mass leaving or ppl just mass leave and the system puts you into wider range of mmrs. One thing is sure though. PvP is facing a brutal exodus and its not a surprise at all.
But ques weren’t long, they were actually faster than normal. It also happened after the last reset, until wednesday it was working normally on that charr and it never happened on the rest of my charrs either… so population wasn’t the case.
I had 30 mins last week for an average rated dps. I would say its slightly better now, but not much. The only difference is that I get more for losses than Im getting for wins. And as a healer that isnt even a paladin, I cant get 70% winloss to climb, so Im pretty much done with the game. Nothing I can do except quitting this clown fiesta. So yea, they probably changed something, so the queues arent so horrible, but in the end it causes even more damage than garbage ques.
Its sad, that thing like MMR is killing such a good expansion. To me DF is one of the best expansions ever. In PvP there is no grind of borrowed powers, pvp gearing is fast, you have time to play more charrs because of that, classes are fun etc… but they killing it by MMR deflation and MMR cap.
Obviously you missunderstood me.
I am saying that the mmr system isn’t wrong. When you play arena, have 2k mmr and lose to a 1500 team, you would also lose massive mmr.
The point that is wrong is, that you get grouped up in a lobby that is so much below you. That shouldn’t happen, because it is pointless to play then. You have nothing to win but much to lose.
spoken like a true russian
yeah whats the point of MMR then
Exactly this, Lilydot put it best into words. The fact that you lost MMR in those lobbies is not a bug, its working as intended. The fact that you were in those in the first place, that SHOULD NOT BE INTENDED. Because any outcome is negative if you play with people with much lower mmr.