I am not sure what your point is. When blizzard is going to organize an event on seperate servers, on live servers the event also will be there.
Just like people playing TGP for high keys on seperate servers, but also doing high keys on live servers.
We are not talking about moving mythic raiding from the game, just this RWF bs.
Getting something killed “first” mattered when servers had their individual achievements for server-first kills, and a proper world-first/region-first kill for bosses.
People and guilds actually cared back then.
Now, it’s just a show that ruins the fun for everyone.
If you do things on seperate servers, you can do thing such as giving them fully decked out toons. So you dont have all the streaming of split runs. Which is boring.
And then instead of endless wipes, you can add things to the fight to make it a spectacle. For example, randomize the mechanics at the press of a button of a Dev. That way you reduce the wipes.
But those are only 2 things which I just made up. If you seperate the servers you can add into them anything your imagination can imagine.
Pleople that want to participate in the TGP usually play in TGP test servers prior to the event. To practice. Just like in the MDI.
Why ? Because they get fully decked out toons, so they can try different comps and strats. They can reset the levels as much as they want. Ect…
So the fact that they also play in live servers is irrelevant.
And as a viewer, why in gods name would I want to watch people play the exact same thing I do? Or worse, things that I cannot even dream of pulling off?
The fact is that you can not replace a live-server event with a seperate-server event.
You just add another event.
You can add all the player driven events you want on live servers. Raiding has historically not been the only “comunity driven” event in the past.
I read somewhere that some Hordies decided to do a marridge event in the Stormwind cathedral. That ROCKS.
But the difference is that other community driven events on live servers do not determine Blizzards policy. Many needed changes that should happen on live are “on pause” untill those RTWF and hall of fame is not over.
Such as cross realm raids in Mythic. For example.
And that is wrong. The desire of 100 people to do a “community driven event” should not determine the policy of Blizzard which would benefit the other thousands of people that play the game.
So. Basically turn the “televised” version of RTWF into its own event, with its own rules and regulations. And then the live version, which should be made, tuned, and maintained for “the masses” gets its own version. And people inside that version can do whatever they want and organize whatever event they wish.
I am still not seeing why we want an extra event on a seperate server.
The current event will also still go on, so there still will be streams and split runs and whatever is going on in or for it.
Purely a community thing. Blizzard has no involvement in it or next to none
Really? Doesn’t bother me and is occasionally fun to watch. Tho m+ is better to watch over raiding
The current event has money, streaming, and importance. According to blizzard.
So they wont tune the bosses or classes (for example) in fear of affecting the RTWF, and the investment in time/money they have done. So we all have to sit here and wait. Because of those 100 people and their sponsors.
If they were in their own server, with their own rules Blizzard can do whatever they want. They can tune things, make them harder, easier, add mechanics, whatever they wish.
Meanwhile, there would be ZERO reason to hold changes on Live. Regarless of if you got an “amateur” social event.
For example: Why cant you have cross-realm Mythic Raid groups before the hall of fame is complete? Because if they made it available those people would abuse it.
So in order to maintain a “fair play” for 100 people, they prevent countless of players from inviting their friends to their raid. Or greatly limit the recrouting options of guilds that raid Mythic, but not at a competitive level. Making their life significantly harder.
So. Put the RTWF (and any other players that wish to participate there) in their own servers. And make Mythic Raids cross realm from day 1.
And if people want to do comunity driven races on live servers, then let them. Its not televized. They dont have any resources. They just do it for fun.
Sort of like running a marathon in the olimpics or in my local village. Both are competitons. But one is “official” and televized in a specific venue (olimpic stadiums) while the other nobody cares about (except a few people) and it happens in the roads of some countryside.
The event will keep that. No matter what extra event blizzard will host themselves on a sperate server.
I can even see players making the live event more important than the gimmicked blizzard-event.
Ok. Then dont make it a seperate server.
But then roll out changes and screw them and their RTWF.
If the raid needs a buf/nerf then Blizzard should do it as soon as possible. Regardless of how much wasted progress the RTWF suffer.
And put back all the nice things we used to have. Like being able to trade raid loot freely. Because if you remember, the ilvl limitation was put in place because of RTWF and hall of fame raiders were abusing it in their split runs.
And allow cross realm Mythic Raids from day 1. And dont lock people into a save from day 1… ect…
Fully agree 
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I don’t care about it like it’s the best thing under the sun that I need to watch, but I enjoy it as a World of Warcraft event where people come together to clear the hardest difficulty in the game while having fun. It’s fun to watch them come up with strategies, go through the grind, joke around, and all of that.
The last time I played League of Legends was in 2014, and I’m still watching Worlds because I just enjoy the event and the excitement around something big happening.
To me, it’s similar to when the NHL season starts.I like the competition, the discussions around it, and everything that comes with it. It’s fun and interesting to me.
I also like that RWF only lasts about two weeks max. It’s actually two weeks of having something to watch. I don’t watch TV, I don’t even own a TV. I just play games and watch YouTube or events like World First.
Medic,Alex,Jeath and Preach are good casters and they make the event even more interesting.
no one ever said remove raiding. But i would say remove Mythic raid.
Let it be LFR, N and Hc. that game will be easier and way more will have fun
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Caring about something doesn’t have to be in a positive way, with that in mind i do care, a lot. Im strongly against anything that caters to the 1%. This game is for everyone, not just elite gamers and streamers.
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sure
for who? the people whos main form of content you want to remove?
I have never cared for world first races, not now and not 15 years ago. And if we’re to consider its influence on encounter design, which has to be nerfed a dozen times before “regular” Mythic CE guilds (incredibly skilled people all the same) can make good progress on that, then I’d say it’s probably doing more harm than good.
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for who? The Casuals / midcore ?
What? I am asking you that question? How does removing mythic affect or benefit players who would never enter mythic in the first place?
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