World of BOTcraft

[Ввола-gordunni]

Hi all. The situation with botting on new classic realms are unbearable. They are everywhere. Are there any solutions to stop it? Like using “captcha” inside the game or on the server level monitor and ban the automated actions? What do you think?

[Saneko-ragnaros (Saneko)]

@Ввола-gordunni

Like using “captcha” inside the game

There are actually captcha-solving bots on the net. It wouldn’t stop them, honestly it wouldn’t be hard to incorporate them to counter captchas ingame either.

@Ввола-gordunni

on the server level monitor and ban the automated actions

If you meant with that Warden should ban them if they’re detected, they do, but they tend to get modified slightly to evade detection the next time for slightly longer (the cat and mouse).

It is particularly bad at the moment though just when I walked across Hillsbrad but uh, I’m quite sure they’re onto it.

Other games like Valorant/League suffering from cheating and their countermeasures explained in detail

https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/dev/dev-vanguard-x-lol/

An ex-dev that worked at Blizz about the efficiency of banwaves

http://youtube.com/shorts/cADaFm__ApQ

I see often that people suggest that Blizzard profit off bots (Credit Fraud/Stolen accounts etc)

Do other games like Runescape or CSGO also “benefit” from allowing (aim)bots, using them for inflating sub counts or purchases?

Some accounts also get stolen with phishing methods or used with fraudulent credit cards, that incur chargeback merchant fees for Blizzard. The “paid” amount plus penalty costing Blizzard a lot more not to mention the damage the botters do ingame.

But wait “credit card fraud doesnt exist for games!!” Some people forget, that Visa stopped processing payments for Runescape because the occuring fraud was just that extreme at a certain point in history.

One of their last public numbers revealed close to 271k banned in December 2023 alone. I don’t think it was even the majority of them.

Better solutions?

There’s no game so far on a similar scale that has a solution. This problem is literally everywhere and anti-cheat development has yet to outpace the illegal bot development.

Kaivax statement on countermeasures against botting

@Kaivax

We hear folks say things like “just ban the bots” a lot. We ban tens of thousands of bots a week. It’s not visible to you just how much we do, and that is absolutely another problem in itself; we need to be better at surfacing these actions (more on this later). The truth is we’ve never been better and more effective at identifying and actioning malicious accounts, and our Game Security Operations (GSO) team that handle these actions are iterating and innovating on a nearly daily basis.

Unfortunately, in the history of WoW, the people perpetrating this illicit trade have also never been better at coming up with new methods, schemes, farms, and exploits to work around our efforts. As much engineering and analytics effort as we put into this, illicit RMT “workshops” put the same amount in, or more, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of these workshops out there all working around the clock to develop new technologies and techniques to counter our new technologies and techniques. It’s an arms race, and it never, ever ends.

We will never completely beat “bots” or illicit RMT. It’s an unwinnable war as long as there is money to be made by third parties. The ubiquitous nature of this type of thing in online games is an objective fact. It has always been a part of WoW, and every other popular online game for the past 25 years, and it will always be a part of online games going forward. It’s frustrating to fight this fight, but we will not stop fighting it.

While we can’t completely “win” the war, what we can do is mitigate the impact it has on the game. Is WoW Token the be-all and end-all to solve this? No, but it is a tool. It’s just one tool, though, among many. There is clearly a demand for gold for certain types of players, and that demand is only increasing. So, we are engaging a tool that we’ve used before to help mitigate the impact that illicit RMT has on the game. The more tools we employ, and the less lucrative we can make it for third parties to do what they do to make a profit, the less likely it is that new malicious actors enter the illicit RMT scene, and the more likely that existing malicious actors will exit the business. Ultimately, it’s taking incremental steps and using a multitude of tools that will reduce how impactful those third parties will be in Wrath Classic and beyond.

Source.

If you have any good ideas don’t forget to submit them through the ingame suggestion box!

[Yale-soulseeker]

@Ввола-gordunni

Hi all. The situation with botting on new classic realms are unbearable. They are everywhere. Are there any solutions to stop it? Like using “captcha” inside the game or on the server level monitor and ban the automated actions? What do you think?

Tell me - what impact do the ‘bots’ have upon your gameplay?

[Stormblaze-genjuros]

@Yale-soulseeker

Tell me - what impact do the ‘bots’ have upon your gameplay?

Let’s see 4 stacks of herb in 2 hours with no bots .
2 Herbs in 2 hours flaming and cursing .

[Yale-soulseeker]

@Stormblaze-genjuros

@Yale-soulseeker

Tell me - what impact do the ‘bots’ have upon your gameplay?

Let’s see 4 stacks of herb in 2 hours with no bots .
2 Herbs in 2 hours flaming and cursing .

You know, not true, somebody is always farmings nodes, you will always have competition.

[Niroth-nethergarde-keep]

Are we really gonna compare the competition of a player gathering herbs in the same area as you vs an entire network of +100 bots that camp every single node across every layer 24/7?

There is no way you aren’t either a troll or someone who bots.