World of nostalgia. Prolly off topic rants

I just came up with the idea that blizzard made some no-brainer changes that damaged more stuff than solved it during the years after the release of world of warcraft.
Examples such as:

  1. Villain batting kael’thas while handserving Illidan with redemption Arc.
  2. Turning Thrall into a pansy allowing the alliance to hold the horde depending on handouts.
  3. Changing the voice from Sylvanas away from this outstanding performance youtu.be/YkmCicezNMQ
  4. #garroshdidnothingwrong
  5. Too many one sided powerhouses.
  6. Constant whitewashing and retcons towards the wrong parts of the story.
  7. Literal slaughter fest on horde and former horde characters in order to have more loots and dungeon enemies to kill.
  8. Never ending World threats.
  9. The continued existence of political factions after the events of warcraft 3.
  10. Not enough love for Goblins and Dwarfs.
  11. And last, locking relevant story behind pay walls.

Just my biggest sore thumbs. I know a certain player will probally use the opportunity again to slap around human and alliance supremacy but @ everyone else, feel free to get creative.

Extra: yes I just woke up and need some coffee now.

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most of the world threats existed since forever though they just suddenly decided to attack rather in short time spans heck warcraft 3 put most of this threats into the spot light

Villain batting kael’thas while handserving Illidan with redemption Arc.

Just because you don’t agree with that, It doesn’t mean you are right or those decisions were wrong.

Maybe because they were never meant to be important races?

Goblins have no redeeming quality whatsoever. They are ugly, greedy, stinky, cowardly, annoying and share no love for anyone or anything but themselves and money. Such is their cowardice and villainy that the World Soul herself, tired of their shenanigans, played a significant role in the destruction of Kezan (this is because the arrogant and greedy Goblin had dug too deep, and started mining Azerite many years before Sargeras plunged his stupid sword into the world).

As for the Dwarves, they were never meant for greatness either. Dwarves in other settings such as Lord of the Rings or Warhammer are important and vastly independent from Mankind, but this is not the Lord of the Rings or Warhammer. This is Warcraft, where Dwarves have served dutifully as valuable sidekicks of the Humans since their debut in Warcraft II.

You have been good and loyal minions, Dwarves, but only one race may rule the Alliance.

I know a certain player will probally use the opportunity again to slap around human and alliance supremacy but @ everyone else, feel free to get creative.

Human supremacy*

And you are referring to me, obviously, and you know, It’s a shame, because I am friend with many other people who love Humans just as much as I do. And Humans are and have always been the most played race in this game by far, so you are delusional if you believe that I am the only Human supremacist.

Not anymore: https://www.worldofwargraphs.com/pve-stats/races

I think the most humans are the remains of the time where their racial was op.

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I meant Alliance race, and it’s so sad that the Horde needs the pretty anime elves to even be competitive with the Alliance. It goes to show how utterly meaningless the core races of the Horde truly are. It goes to show who truly plays the Horde. People who want to play a Red Alliance, not people who want to play as the ugly monsters and barbarians. How I despise that hypocritical faction.

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Jeez if void elfs won’t stop growing they will soon overshadow humans. A shame.

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then it will truly be World of Elfcraft … Void Elves Vs Blood Elves …

Blood Elves doesn’t look like anime elves anyway. They just look like prettier humans with long ears. They’re only the most popular race in the horde, because they aren’t avaible on the alliance side. Afaik they where even addad to safe the horde from dying.

there’s too much focus on elves. i play an ugly undead monster and loving it alongside my elf.

can’t we have both? :frowning:

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They are anime elves because they were added to satisfy the korean girls who wanted to play a pretty race in the Horde.

Oh my God, It’s going to be so funny in Classic when 70% of the Retail Horde players realize that they can’t play their pretty fairies and will either go back to Retail or go Alliance.

You do know it is the fans what say this and not Blizzard… Right?

I mean I could tear apart so many of these but I’d know I would be bashing my head against the wall.

And Tauren, Gnomes, Darkspear Trolls.

As for locking story I quite liked how dailies in MoP worked. The moment you hit more rep more story was revelead in relation to the reputation you was part of. Lots of interesting stuff was happening because of it.

https://i.imgur.com/eReeM4N.jpg

I still have this screenshot as souvenir.

I also remember 5.1. patch story to be far more revarding intense and better executed than warcampaign.

I can speak for myself but I’d really want more for a story to be like patches 5.0- 5.2. More about exploration, some side-conflict over resurces or political matters. Let factions act like countries that has certain interests and motives.

Example

For example In Heroes 3 you had the Good Campaign, the Bad, and the Chaotic Neutral. To make story short once one Kingdom fallen because of evil guys, the neutrals started to make a move to take some bits of their lands for resources - there were 2 parties. Barbarians that lived o wastelands and reptilions who lived on swamps. Since the big country went down, and the were always short on goodies, they simply took oportiunity to take wood/ ore/ other mineral mines/ gather some gold.
This is not exactly evil stuff, it’s oportiunistic, pragmatic and reasonable. And that is a story I’d expect from Horde at least.

So I think that I’d really prefer continuity/ logic over rule of cool.
I have no problem of losing from time to time so long it’s written in satisfying way.

And some down to earth plots. If the World-wide threaths are appearing each expansion then they’re becoming ridiculous.

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Ahem, Blood Elf Male has a realistic physique similar to Olympic athletes in our world. Looks wiry, but not Anime.

Human Male has improbable physique and bulking muscles to look super strong. Sorry, which was the Anime race again?

Someone hasn’t been keeping up to date with current events… Tauren and Orcs have seen a big upswing of numbers, Trolls will too.

Hmm, no, actually, I think you’ll find most people who play Blood Elves do so -because- they are in the Horde, at least on RP realms, as both you and I are, so I would have expected you to notice that those who wanted pretty elves but to be goodies have already rolled Void Elf. Also if you think the Horde is defined by being ugly and barbarians, then I would suggest you actually do a little research into what the Horde -is-, but we both know that won’t happen. Gnarly spikes and looking monstrous does not a Horde make.

I don’t think Hypocritical was the word you were looking for there. I mean that literally (in the correct sense of the word) makes no sense in that context. I’m not sure what word you were looking for, but Hypocritical certainly wasn’t it.

Is that why we have Forsaken without bones showing? Why we turn into Gravestones and not Skeletons when our characters die? Why we don’t pay a subscription in the same way? Wise up. The Asian game is a franchise, they pay for it differently, the models look different, and due to cultural taboos certain mobs and bad guys aren’t even in the game. Do you have any idea how different it is from the EU and US version? Or how many changes implemented in the Asian version -never- come across to our Version? They’re practically different games in all but name.
They conducted a poll, and on the strength of that introduced Blood Elves. They saw how popular the race was and implemented them on the US/EU version Turns out they were right. People did like playing a different type of ‘evil’, one with a less monstrous and more ‘human’ face. Its almost like all our examples of ‘evil’ from real life have been humans, and people were influenced by that. Shocker.

I doubt it will be that funny. I mean for a start that would imply that 70% of Horde players main Blood Elves. Which is not true. It also implies that people are incapable of making characters of other races. Which is not true. Most people, though I suspect you are not one of them, are perfectly capable of distancing their character from themselves, and creating a character of another race, and enjoying it that way. I mean I have Elves Night and Blood, Humans, a Gnome, a Goblin, a Tauren, a Troll, a Forsaken, an Orc, a Draenei, Worgen, Dwarves. All sorts. Most people are not trammelled by just playing One race, or even One Faction.
Plus there are many for whom Classic just has no appeal. I remember Vanilla. It was a mess, and as a roleplayer, I couldn’t properly enjoy myself knowing I was playing in an unfinished setting that didn’t accurately represent the game world.
I doubt it will be ‘funny’, especially not for Classic fans. If, as you say, people miss their Blood elves, Draenei, Worgen, Goblins, Pandaren, and all the Allied Races as much as you think, then that is a large loss of players, which makes it more likely that Classic will tank after an initial surge of interest.

Personally I think that as most people are mature enough to be able to create characters of other races than their favourite (I realise this may be an alien concept) that it will not tank, but will drop down to a lower level when the nostalgia wears off, but then burble along quietly, like a Low Pop realm.

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You’re not ugly though :heart:

you are thoughful. if only you were red and hooved like i will be.

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Well… I am hooved!

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I hope this hooved elf is right

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Blood Elves, Night Elves, Void Elves, High Elves, Tiny Elves, Bearded Elves, Cattle Elves, Lok Tar Ogar Elves, Forsaken Elves, Greedy Elves, Hooved Elves, Shining Hooved Elves, Puppy Elves.

We need a little bit more Elves :wink:

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For a moment you looked like a blue skinned human to me. Never noticed those hooves hrn…

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How could you have not noticed my hooves? They are the best part of me.

Alongside my horns.
And hair.
And tail.
And eyepatch.