Worst ALT expansion

Eh, it’s your choice of course and if you enjoy the dungeons, that’s fine and fair - but if the goal was to gear faster and move to higher content quicker, it’s very inefficient.

To me, the AH has always been a way to fix low slots that remain after hitting cap. Buying crafted gear is no different to buying BoEs, and that includes basic green gear not just mythic raid drops listed at half a million.

Both crafting and BoE drops have been in WoW since vanilla and neither is comparable to buying a boost. Indeed, crafted gear is a major feature of Dragonflight, that’s what Sparks are for - we are expected to be more reliant on other players for at least some of our gearing :smile_cat:

Well i suppose this is the first expansion you have to get 50-60 ilvl after dinging before you can start doing end game content. But when i have to start spending money for this, then i’d better buy instant a (or some) higher level key boost(s). There are also ‘no’ WQ’s in this expansion available that can get some ilvl. Not to start about the missing daily emmisaries.

Eh, I usually find there’s 1-2 trinkets and sometimes a weapon. Doing the Siege+Feast+Hunt also gets an item from each, then a fourth from the weekly rep quest.

They do however scale to your current gear (capped around 376) so it does feel inefficient to do any of them to start off with.

Tbh, Blizzard seem to have intended basic green crafted gear to fill that gap between ding and dungeons - and it will pump up the world quest reward gear when equipped. You can of course ignore it if you like, but it’s designed this way to encourage players to engage with crafting, and prices are not at all unreasonable because supply is so high. Alternatively, make your own crafted gear if your alt has a relevant profession - you’ll get a basic item for each slot pretty quickly and can re-craft and upgrade it as you go.

Anyway, that’s how other people are gearing fast :joy_cat:

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The info is very well appreciated! :smiley:

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Oh, and of course, the world boss, primal storms , and old school rare farming - although you may have to wait a bit for anyone to show up for the rares. Their drops kind of get overshadowed by the new zone.

I really dont understand your arguments about gearing…with forbidden reach is sooo easy to gear alts to decent level where you can start doing some keys above 10-12 level…getting 4set is p**s easy to get if you play atleast 1 hour per week

But i can agree with the profession catch up… its better now, that the artisan rep is account wide, but still if you sare starting the proff now, you ll be behind for a loooong time

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I am however short of artisan’s mettle to buy those big knowledge tokens off the vendor. All those weekly freebie mettle quests I didn’t do on alts :pensive:

I started herb and mining on an alt last week and was able to buy all 6 knowledges after this reset…you lot of knowledge when you lvl up the proff and every knowledge point is 5 mettle

I’ve had plenty of invites to HC pugs at ilvl 390-400. Having a main with a good number of mythic bosses down is pretty much a free pass to HC ‘quick clear’ alt runs. But you have to also put in the effort on your main.

M+20, not so much, but even having 415+ ilvl and everything timed at +20 isn’t a guaranteed invite to +20s (particularly as dps) when there are so many people with higher keys applying for weekly vault runs. (I’m one of the dps players who applies to Shadowmoon +20 on my main because it’s a quick key for the vault, so I’m guilty of the exact same behaviour that blocks my alts from those keys when other people do it.)

I can see why it’s fine for gathering - but I already have mature a herb/miner, so my alts all take double crafting. This does tend to present a problem because you end up burning your mettle as fast as it comes in. My alchemist lost loads to experimentation, in particular :pensive:

Well yeah, alchemy is probably the worst when it comes to mettle, but i have leveled JC for the elemntium and that was pretty fine to get and level up

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JC is quite nice for a little side income right now. 1000g per day on average doesn’t sound a lot, but it racks up over time.

Next time something like this comes around I might re-train some of the alts who aren’t really doing anything and catch the window of opportunity. Sadly I think it’s fading a bit already :joy_cat:

I see you never played BFA 8.3

It is so easy to gear alts in Dragonflight
Especially since the Catalyst became available.

Professions are a different story, I mean, it’s a new system so give them a chance.

Full token set from farming keys on main character.

Elemental Lariat, weapon, ring, plus an armor piece of your choice from crafting. Each is 392 (or maybe 395).

With these you should have a ring and two trinket slots that need upgrading (a token drops from broken shore for each, but I found them to be pretty rare).

This will stop you roughly around 385.if you are lucky with timewalking you will jhave one or two 402+ pieces by now.

The rest will come from dungeons, or by spending a few hours killing rares so you bump the prinalist pieces up to 395.

EDIT: you can also but the 359 versions of primalist gear from the vendor to pieces you are missing, and use the storm sigils you collected to up them to 385.

LOL. You need to grind skill points on every damn character. It+s horrible.

What kind of logic is this? The professions are rightly hammered for being convoluted and extremely time consuming with little benefit unless you no life the hell out of it (from the start).

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you can get full 415 just by farming M+, what are you talking about :joy:

400 is more than enough to do 20s. 20s drops 405 gear. First 20 I did on my paladin alt I was 393 as the healer.

Ever since legion, DF is actually the most alt friendly expansion since you pretty much have no system to grind on every single alt, unlike legion and BFA ap or SL legendaries and conduits

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With all respect, that is professional territory. Most players never reach +20’s even with 415 ilvl.

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