WoW Classic: The Joyous Journeys 50% Experience Buff Returns

I have never said that :man_shrugging:

In fact, I have specifically said it came in the ICC patch in almost every post in this thread.

Here: https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/wow-classic-the-joyous-journeys-50-experience-buff-returns/410863/14

And here https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/wow-classic-the-joyous-journeys-50-experience-buff-returns/410863/16

Indirectly here https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/wow-classic-the-joyous-journeys-50-experience-buff-returns/410863/18

Indirectly here https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/wow-classic-the-joyous-journeys-50-experience-buff-returns/410863/21

Indirectly here https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/wow-classic-the-joyous-journeys-50-experience-buff-returns/410863/24

Here https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/wow-classic-the-joyous-journeys-50-experience-buff-returns/410863/43

Here https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/wow-classic-the-joyous-journeys-50-experience-buff-returns/410863/49

And here https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/wow-classic-the-joyous-journeys-50-experience-buff-returns/410863/103

Ands I just want to point out that you answered that last post where I wrote:

So it’s weird that you somehow missed that.

OK let’s call it progession.

We did not have RDF for the WOTLK progression.

Pre-patch - No RDF
Phase 1 naxx - No RDF
Phase 2 - Ulduar - No RDF
Phase 3 ToC - No RDF
Phase 4 ICC - RDF added to the game.

RDF was not part of the leveling experience or the major WOTLK experience or any progression. It was however part of all of Cata and all of the Cata leveling experience.

So I pointed that out. What was described as the the WOTLK leveling experience was in fact the Cata leveling experience. When we levelled and was progressing thought the WOTLK raids we did not have those things.

Also I use the word experience because that word was used in the post I commented on:

Non of that was actually available in phase 1 when the leveling experience for an expansion happens. Just wanted to point that out.

Nor did the quote say it was available in phase 1.

How is this hard to wrap your head around?

What happens in phase 1 when we get a new expansion? What is the experience we get? If we would put a name on that?

People level their mains?

Exactly. And when we levelled our mains in WOTLK retail, when we had that leveling expereince, did we have any of the things you mentioned? Queue for bgs anywhere, xp in bgs or RDF?

Did I claim as much?

And do you remotely understand the difference between everyone, literally everyone being out there levelling and the current situation?

Indirectly yes. You are talking about features that made the “WOTLK leveling experience” when in fact the WOTLK leveling experience did not have those things you mention. Not until the end. Meanwhile Cata had that leveling experience. So I pointed that out. And that was how the discussion started.

Not sure what you are saying. We are still in phase 1 and everyone have been leveling in this phase.

No, not at all, at least, not outside your head.

I utterly refuse to be held responsible for what’s going on in your head cause that craps scary as f.

Ok I will try one last time.

You said this:

And I pointed out that what you describe is not the WOTLK leveling experience and is more like the Cata leveling experience.

We did not have a single one of those features you mention in phase 1 when everyone was leveling and having the leveling experience. RDF specifically was not added until the last phase and wasn’t part of the leveling experience or progression of that expansion.

And I still never claimed as much.

It was pretty clear from the context of it being a reply to a guy levelling multiple people that it was talking about alts.

The first thing I do on every single new character is run to a capitol city.

That’s the biggest load of garbage I’ve ever read.

Most people choose to ignore Driim.

Aha well ok then.

I agree that what you describe was the end phase alt leveling experience of WOTLK.

:person_facepalming:

I explicitly told you repeatedly in the thread.

I can’t see a single time you even mention alts in this thread directly or indirectly.

Anyway

Personally I would not describe leveling a bunch of alts at the end of an expansion as “the leveling experience” of that expansion. I have vivid memories of my leveling experience from WOTLK retail (including alts during progression) but I can’t remember a single alt I leveled in patch 3.3-3.3.5 and I know I leveled a bunch of them using RDF.

We know this, cause you repeatedly state that when the ICC patch hit the game is over for you. You don’t have to say it again.

I have never said that or implied that directly or indirectly ever.

Here is your chance to prove that you are not a dishonesty straw man troll.

Show me any post I have ever made that is even remotely close to that claim.

Literally any post of yours claiming RDF came “at the end of WotLK” is literally that.

In what way?

RDF came along ICC, that is a fact. What does that have to do with your straw man claim?

I have never said anything like that. So go ahead and show me now or prove that you are a straw man troll.

And you throw around strawman every other post while leaving out that with that claim you also state that RDF was at the end of WotLK.

ICC wasn’t near the end of WotLK.