And ofc Wow has the Lich King 
Exactly. I mean Lich King and death knights and all the edgy goth themes around it is like much better than anime boobs. 
Unfortunately I am a ‘gurlie’ gamer and anime boobs do not work for me.
1 Like
No; because those things you list are not objective to begin with. They are subjective opinions about the game. 
You have to understand alot of the people that still play wow are not really video game players, they are wow players.
I have a good few irl friends and many online friends that are like asmongold, they dont really care about other games they are just wow addicts that got hooked when they were teenagers. They play every crappy xpac all the way through aswell(wod/bfa/cata).
Aslong as wow has those addicts it doesn’t matter if they keep churning out awful xpacs, as there will always be people that have nothing else to do.
2 Likes
There’s always some good ol’ bara dudes and cool dragon-people to enjoy.
Mmm now you got me intrigued.
They cannot really fix the game when the game is remade from scratch every 2 years, essentially releasing a brand new game every 2 years. That is not remotely enough time to iterate properly and the best they can do is resort to band aids inside the expansion.
It is now taken for granted there will be “one good expansion - one bad expansion”, yet, no one questions why that should even be the case. Why does a AAA developer have a “B team” at all so the game is dogshyte for half the time? What the hell sort of system is that?
Dude, you can scream all day that WoW is worse, and bring artpieces around as examples in to say “Look! The first one is worse and the second is factually superior!”, in an attempt to disguise your argument being “WoW is worse because it isn’t as pretty as other games”.
And for the record, I’m not a big fan of either artpieces, less so of the second one because I’m not that big of a fan of the whole “Death” motif, and I can’t stop asking questions as to why is there Baby Dr. Manhattan in there. The first one feels nice and simple, still feeling bummed about the whole death motif.
Every MMO can be “The worst” if you try hard enough.
ESO is the worst MMO because it does PvE horrendously and the open world is mind-numbingly easy.
Final Fantasy 14 is the worst MMO because the community is soft and the artstyle is too Asian with cutesy designs and what have you.
Guild Wars 2 is the worst MMO because… Actually it isn’t that bad. Maybe because you move around very slowly without speed buffs?
As someone who’s mostly playing Classic, Retail as it is isn’t actually as terrible. It certainly could be better but it’s far from the worst. Like I said; Other MMOs improve on things from WoW but do other things far worse (ESO has bad open world difficulty and PvE being stupid for example).
And why is Classic popular? What attracts me to it is the slower-paced gameplay and the world being more threatening. Also helps that I have more abilities than the five rotational abilities and the other six situational/cooldown-based abilities.
I 'unno, Shadowlands seems to be introducing some features that people wanted.
WoW content creators don’t know what they want, neither do players half the time.
Uhm… Not really, no. I mean, you can always sit there screaming that a game like ESO or Final Fantasy 14 are much superior games, but then I will sit there, look at my own experiences and tell you that you are a liar.
Oh, you drew the first picture? Great, now I hate it more than the second one. Thanks for that!
1 Like
The problem I have with the Reforged Edition (And partially with what you have to say), is that the buildings look fairly appropriate to the Warcraft 3 feeling. The models not so much, there’s a crash difference between how the buildings and enviroment look and how the models are. They belong in different games.
And well… I hate people who think that grafix are the end-all or be-all factor to a game. Warcraft of 2002 will probably remain looking good forever, while Warcraft 3 Reforged with it’s HD hyper-realistic models will look dated in… Five years or so?
Only thing I feel bad about is that there isn’t much instanced or open-world stuff to do that allows for two players to do together. Only fun stuff that there actually is to do are dungeons, and… Well, you need three other players for that. Here’s hoping that the Shadowlands Tower will allow two players to do it together.
Warcraft is not perfect. Oh i could write a novel here, why and how. The amount of missed opportunities and odd decisions… yet all developers have those. And for example while wow PvP is occasionally abysmal and I learned to appreciate it after I played in other games and learned that, if Blizzard is bad at Excel sheets, then some developers do not even know what Excel is. Like wise I disliked certain expansion in warcraft. Bit of LoTRO and ESO, RiFt and what not at time - I found that I just probably needed break from wow, and not that wow was being bad.
As compilation - all those small parts combined, for me at least warcraft lacks any competition. definitely and 100% certainty - other games have elements that are far superior to Blizzards work. But I do not judge just Z and Y, but I also measure X and O while saying if something is overall better (for me).
I just put it here, so you can see another example of current status of WoW:
https://trends.google.pl/trends/explore?q=World%20of%20Warcraft,%2Fm%2F064ln09,%2Fm%2F0jt2y_q
That’re more of a mindset issue. When they did the original they went for the best they could and that’s what they are doing now.
Where the mindset bit comes in is people who hold nostalgia for the original version. Any young people or people seeing the game in remastered form (not having played or seen the original) will end up looking on the remastered as people look at the original when it was the latest thing on the street.
That’s how human generations work.
OAPs saying the 60s and their bands where the best, then it happens again for the 70s, 80s, 90s. I myself was a kid in the early 90s so I will always have fond memories of the music then, call it generational bias. When in reality, 90s music was just a different flavor.
We’re sorry, but you have sent too many requests to us recently. Please try again later. That’s all we know.
1 Like
brushes dust off hands
Looks like Google resolved that matter for us.
Umm no. Ff14 textures on hair and armor are horrible.
Except WoW is way better looking than ff14 and arguably even ESO. The amount of detail and fluidity and the way one area flows into the other is just so much better than the aforementioned titles.
Ofcourse you don’t go into the oldest level zones in the game and say: “That’s WoW graphics!” I dare you to walk through Tanaan Jungle and call the graphics worse than ff14. It’s simply not the case.
1 Like
Even if they’re the same genre, you can’t objectively rank stuff that is ultimatley judged on taste. No matter how much you analyse it. You can offer an opinion, and argue why your opinion should be noted. But you’re assuming the quality of an MMORPG can be judged by the criteria of your comparison.
I’m not saying your comparisons are wrong, or Ill made. I’m saying the ultimate determine of quality is not something that can be neatly judged. Quality is judged by game makers, players, causuals, hardcore. Who are you to say that any of these groups aren’t “correctly” appraising the quality of the game simply because they use different mediums to do so? If they use a vague “makes me feel good” to determine quality, that’s up to them. The best you can hope for is a stock of averages from a sample of opinions and see what sticks.
What you cannot do is say their judgement does not count because of X Y or Z because they’re not using your terms, because your terms are not universally agreed. In the same way music is not universally judged in terms of quality by its technical composition. There’s stuff like popularity, sales, time in number one, etc. You’re completely ignoring stuff other than the terms you think are the “right way” to judge an MMORPG. Someone who measures MMORPG quality on popularity say, would completely disagree with your list because wow is more popular than the alternatives you list, therefore for them, higher quality. Who is right and who is wrong?
Personally I started to want a main toon after years of just playing whatever my guild needed me to. I’ve since then started farming every reputation in the game to exalted so that I will feel I can’t swap from that toon. I’m almost all done up to MoP and I haven’t get this bond to a toon in a long time 
1 Like
That’s just taste in the end. For me I like ff style better than wow. But the 2 doesn’t aim at the same style of graphics in the first place. Some will find the first more appealing, some the others. We can’t argue on that.
2 Likes
True.
ESO and FFXIV aim for a more realistic attempt while FFXIV has an anime style.
WoW retains a cartoony theme but nonetheless still artistically as fantastic as the other mmos.
1 Like