TBH when i want ot push my keys on my main or do some good stuff: i rather do that with friends or good guildys… How ever! If they are not online or when i just want to chill and socialise: i rather pug. Or do other stuff. So yes one of the reasons i play mmo is same as you and also why i would love to pug to… Else i would be playing other games that strickly limits me to 10 players or solo game… Rather then play a game of big community … … These to defend the Community around me.
What bothers me a lot is that the game is so flawed it allows the community to demand more and more stuff for players to get in and enjoy the game.
So i challange you to relevel a toon and see how fast you climb up within your community not using your key at all in climbing i mean rejoin an Mythic 15 or 17. And see my point where your alt gets declined unless you show that you already done that in an pug world.
you must be on some thing mon, come and level an alliance alt and tell me again " calmer alliance example no requirement like raider io … That must be an dreamworld for me? … To join in an M15 or 17…
" changing faction is an illusion where some players think it is day and night a difference … In reality being in horde or alliance side is no difference now days: because you can make an horde and alliance where ever you want to " so do not say your comunity is these because you are on the wrong side of the faction in game xD
I didnt say anything about horde or alliance is better than the other. I gave you the name of the alliance keystones community that does not use any requirements.
I’m not a hardcore player by any means. Up until this season, I painfully PUG’d my way up gradually. It’s only been in this season that I and some of my guild formed a group to do +15 and maybe higher. None of us are elitist or hardcore, we just play and have a laugh together.
You don’t need to be hardcore to do +15’s, but to be invited to these groups, it stands to reason that you’d need some way to prove that you won’t single handedly tank someone elses key.
all you need is invest enough time to get enough good groups which can time dungeons to get your toxic score up passively enough so you get invited more easily.
there is no secret to it - al lyou have to do is do any keys you can get into , both on tyranical and foritfied.
lets say that 1 in 3 groups can "carry " you - this means that to get 10 good score runs you need like 30 runs .
problem many people are facing is they do 4 dungeons a week and are done.
while others do 20 dungeons a week and raise their score 5 times faster .
problem is when someone who did next to no dungeons at all ques for +15. just because he wants that nice shiny 252 in GV.
Unless it’s changed since BFA, it’s a completely soulless community where the members would rather disband the group than pug a tank when you’ve been waiting for over an hour or more for a tank.
With a 1000 members i would assume there are people who would pug a tank and people who would not pug a tank. Not sure what the qualification “soulless” means.
I would rather not pug a tank either, also over 1 hour waiting for a tank has happened to me in LFG-ingame in BFA too. So not sure what the difference is. But with the community you know you have a group in good harmony that does also not disband.
Zzz.
How about you join an active guild?
How about you do your key?
How about you make your raid groups?
How about you on your keys play good enough so people notice and ask your for another key?
How about you form a net of people you know that want to play with you?
Gear matters only on certain levels but at the end of the day if you suck no gear can help you.
Yesterday I did a 18 with a 236 Holy Paladin, guess what? This guy what better than many 245 Paladin.
Honestly, pugging might the the worst thing you can do if you want to progress and don’t want to waste a bunch of time.
Its a game made for people whom buy tokens, get lured into 6month subs for a FrEe mOuNt and iTS cHeAPer not understanding they are paying for 6months for a 9month content drought.
Its a game made for people that cant react when the enemy uses CDs only to cry and moan on the forums about wheelchair classes being OP.
Its a game made for people spend their token gold on boosts only to skewer a rated system and gatekeep a rating with a mixure of poor skill and high gearing making them unable to climb above 1700 and not able to fall below 1500, so they hover around there making everyone elses time worse.
Its a game best played later.
And im a huge sucker for still playing it because no other game is as mechanically clean.
The game is good because other games are bad. Not because its a good game in itself anylonger.
If wow is for nolife hardcore players then why 90% of what wow is is not what nolife hardcore players want to do and hate doing? Do you realize that the entire covenants are justified by casuals having meaningful choice? Hard respec is done so people who think that your offspec shouldn’t be as good as main spec are happy? Dailies are made for casuals that spend time in the game just doing random world quests and stuff, same with anima? LFR and normal bloat the ILVL so casuals can do the raid. Heroics exist for the same reason. Timewalking is a joke because people were crying it’s too hard and you can’t do it ignoring all mechanics. Sadly 90% of the game is an absolute joke and it’s a joke because devs care about casuals so much. Just because people don’t want to take you to raid and carry you through a +15 doesn’t mean the game is made for elitists.
WoW doesn’t cater to ANYONE at the moment, apart from boosters.
Hardcore players like me, who don’t no life it, got shafted because now we have to no life it or effectively be casuals.
Streamers got shafted (they have to do all the extremely dull stuff just as much as anyone else, just in addition to actually streaming it since the grind is super-boring to do, even worse to watch.)
Casual players got shafted (do you enjoy being absurdly weak and the game demanding half a workweek of not having fun to get stronger, every week for multiple weeks and 1 hour of story every week to somehow excuse your sub? Jesus)
WoW certainly isn’t for the no lifers. They’re just having their addictions monetized and abused for no reward.
how about blizzard just go away with idiotic system of depleting keys and implement thorgast system into m+ - you completed difficulty X you can complete difficulty X + 1 always whenever you want picking up from list like in thorgast
I said the same thing once, got flamed my butt off lol.
the op is pretty much right, like if you want to be competitive in wow now, you will have to do M+ higher and higher keys, do raids to atleast heroic level, you have to do dailies farm, resources, farm renown to be competitive or you will fall behind.
there is some cathup systems in place what does help, but if you are a litle bit late to the party, you might as well wait for next patch or next expac, becuse you will not be able to catch up.
what this has done now, is to make the boosting community trive realy well now, becuse it is realy easy to do so, have some money, buy tokens, buy a boost, and you are good to go.
in climbing i mean rejoin an Mythic 15 or 17. And see my point where your alt gets declined unless you show that you already done that in an pug world.