My most played MMORPG before WoW you couldn’t even see what other players had equipped. You just have an appearance that doesn’t change based on your gear.
I guess it wasn’t a MMORPG.
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That’s what I don’t agree with.
Gambling has real life money which is at stake.
Stuff in WoW is … Just that… Stuff in WoW. If you look at it objectively; it doesn’t matter what you achieve in WoW (except for the 0.1% who actually gets paid to achieve stuff in WoW - something I’ve already shared I am very much against).
I suppose if you boil it down to its most basic essence:
Some people think of gaming like a sport, which has to be fair, needs rules, structure and competition.
Other people (like me) think of gaming as ‘a waste of time that’s supposed to be fun’. Nothing more, nothing less. Anything that threatens that spirit of fun is bad and toxic imo. Stuff like tournaments, like world first, like e-sports.
Which of those two ideologies you adhere to, pretty much will decide your view on most of the things discussed in this thread.
I still enjoy parts of the game that exist more in a vacuum. Like the story and lore – that continues to be a bigger draw for as it’s moving toward a kind of climax or finale.
I also really enjoy the chill and relaxed part of just logging in and doing some quests and events and otherwise just play my character in a casual solo setting. I think it’s the familiarity of the world itself, my character and how it plays, and the routine of killing and looting and completing things in the game.
And then as you point out, then I increasingly rage over the game because in all other aspects I think it has deteriorated or taken a turn for the worse. That’s ultimately just frustration toward Blizzard for squandering the potential of something so great and ending up with something with such bleak future prospects.
Why not just quit and be done with it all? I said this before, but if you have been attached to something for a long time, then the process of detachment will also take a long time.
I think that goes for most things in life and not just WoW.
But for what it’s worth, then I am slowly paving the path toward that ultimate conclusion. And in my mind’s eye it happens at the end of The Last Titan. That’s when I get my story conclusion and I quit happily and satisfied, or Blizzard drags it on with another bigger baddie, and then i quit in anger and frustration. But either way I am preparing for that to be the end of my WoW experience – at least as this persistent hobby.
More that you should care that Bobby, Johny, and you are all playing the game using the same 6-sided dice that came with the box, so to speak. Because that’s fair play.
However, the reality is that you’re using the 6-sided dice, but Bobby and Johny spent some extra money and bought a 12-sided dice that they’re using.
You can still play the game with your 6-sided dice just fine. After all, the game was made to be played with that 6-sided dice!
But Bobby and Johny are using the 12-sided dice that they bought.
And this is where people say that Bobby and Johny aren’t cheating. They’re not better players because they have an advantage, and is a 12-sided dice even an advantage anyway?! You can still complete the game with a 6-sided dice even if it takes longer! And you can still roll a 5 and beat them if they roll a 4, so are they even winning?
To which I say: It’s P2W. It shouldn’t be allowed. And it shouldn’t be applauded.
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And yet Bobby and Johny keep doing 72k dps…
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They’re playing with a 12-sided dice and they keep rolling 4s, so it’s fine?
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Yup.
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So what happens when they get lucky at start rolling a lot of 12s?
And what happens the day that the n00b who got boosted for Mythic gear learns how to play and now also does top dps?
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And yet people engage with it the same way, and that’s what’s actually important, at least in my mind.
A game and play are not the same. Games have rules and win/lose criteria, play does not.
You can choose to ignore the win/lose criteria, play within the rules anyway, and that’s still a game, but that doesn’t mean the win and lose criteria have vanished. You’re just not pursuing them, and that’s okay.
Again, you are almost all conflating reality with whether or not you care. It’s like saying the sun doesn’t shine because you couldn’t be bothered to look at it. It’s completely absurd and tiring.
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But as I explained already: It’s not fair. It’s never been fair:
Amonet beat me to it.
Gear doesnt make your magically play better. Medicore geared player who knows his rotation inside out, will beat any bis gear monkey who presses buttons …provided he doesnt die at the first fire poodle.
So his 12 slide dice is “cursed” with having 1-3 numbers on all slides.
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No, but it does make you succeed more frequently than you would without it, which is the whole friggin’ point of calling it pay2win when you got the gear for real money in the first place.
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No, but the aim from Blizzard should always be to make it as fair as possible.
And the desire from players should always be to support them in that aim.
But Blizzard are doing the opposite, and you’re cool with that direction?
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How do you succeed more frequently when you end up with a +10 key that you put up in LFG and then have people leave because you’re doing less DPS than the healer?
Then you go +9 and people leave again due to your DPS.
Then you’re in a +8 and people join, see your DPS and then leave again.
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No it doesn’t. You cannot do jack without having the skill to back up that gear.
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Succeed at what? Getting kicked from every raid, m+, pvp group for being as usefull as a wet cardboard box?
Beeing seen as a boosted scrub to avoid as the plague is… a “sucess”?
But what if you’re doing more?
What if the guy’s doing as good dps as you, and then he also went and bought some Mythic gear from a boost?
Now he’s doing MORE dps than you?
What about that?
Why do you always assume that all people who buy boosts are n00bs who perform the absolute worst?
Isn’t it a more fair assumption to say that people who buy boosts are everyone. Some are n00bs, some are mediocre, some are decent, and some are pros?
You’re being biased by always trying to establish that he who buys a boost is a n00b and will always perform as a n00b. But there’s nothing that suggests that to be the truth.
I can buy a boost today and I am not a n00b. I perform well. With better gear I would perform even better. Is that fair I can buy that better performance with money?
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Back in SL I bought a boost on my hunder because I wanted to try my luck at the Sylvanas bow. Even though I had curve way before I bought the boost, people kept /w and making fun of the fact that the hunter was boosted when I tried to create a group.
That is how far buying a boost gets you.
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I haven’t seen a single player in LFG that was boosted that’s actually been up to par people with people that got to where they are without getting boosted.
But you haven’t seen all players, so that’s a moot point.
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But it is fair. Every player in this game has the same opportunity. We can all buy a token and pay for a boost if we want to.