eh thats why you stuck 1300…im rival 2 allready ^^
mate you dont even rank 1 enchants etc…
Well I have a life and that’s why I haven’t been logging in to the game for a while. I have got 5 tokens rofl. You are so bad dude. You can’t even write to forums on your character.
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X for doubt and you do not need to buy a token for gold it is easy to make already.
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Where do you buy 418ilvl gear? Please do tell so i can buy some.
If you’re talking about crafted ones - don’t you need Spark of Ingenuity for it? Which we only got 2-3 untill now? And for 418 ilvl dont you need recipe from mythic or something from mythic raid?
Buying gear is part of every MMo,i just see it as content for casuals.
Not everyone has guild/friends/premade or time to invest to be able to do that content early on,and instead of waiting months to be able to do some content - you buy it.
its disgusting buying good gear and cosumes for in game currency in an mmo. the token is maybe a bit iffy but itss definetly not pay to win
oh yeah M+ also haha xD, but my point still stands, theres physical gates that prevents someone logging on buying gold and just ordering the gear at 415 ilevel lol
Not really. You need those mythic infusions(collect 10+150 primal chaos to create 1) to create a 418(r5) item
You dont need token for enchants and 3 gems.
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Only an idiot will buy boe. You can make your own gear. You can level alts and be completely independent. It takes so little time to do that.
You can join guilds and run hc with them. Buy inexpensive enchants. The difference in stats is very small.
Stats are secondary but your skill, knowledge of your class and synergy with other classes will are always primary.
Open world mobs or elites are so easy at ilvl 370. You might need help with some rare elite bosses. Mythic dungeons are easy up to +10.
Heroic raids are only as good as the entire team.
There’s so little p2w. Maybe pay to get things a bit faster but gear is falling from the skies this expansion.
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of course its pay to win! try to farm this boring and retarded +15 dungeons. what do you get here? ROFL! ilvl 398 INTIME??? you cant even play with it in +16 keys in 6/8 dungeons properly…
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL
you get piece of S*********** gear in m+! you cant play with it!!!
and then go to raiderio and see how they faceroll with P2W stuff high keys!
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good, good, buy tokens so I can pay with less gold per month. nice nice
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But you still need Spark of Ingenuity of which we only got 3 so far, and for 408-418 ilvl you need Concentrated Primal Focus - which only drops in mythic raid ( not that many people do it) and can drop from mythic+16 or higher.
So people who craft it are the ones we like to call elitists ,and im pretty sure if they craft it they already have few parts of 418 + ilvl gear.
Even if they did craft it, it’s only 3 parts or 2 since weapons require 2x Sparks.
So yeah,no newbie with a billion gold will craft that since he cant get all the regents ( unless he buys M+ 16-20 runs ( on my server +15 costs like 950k)
So by the time a person can do that content,he will already have high ilvl.
I mean,last week from that weekly quest i got 418ivll ring with socket that is very rare drop from heroic raid.
And last week that was awesome,this week there are more premade heroic raid runs in group finder then there are normal runs…
Im very casual player ( wife and a 1 year old at home) and i started WoW again with this expansion ( used to play a bit in SL but for a month or so)
And im already 400ilvl without buying anything
Normal raid is 8/8 and HC is 5/8 ,and im doing it with randoms.
This is coming from ret paladin who has hard time getting into dungeons.
My point is,game is very giving with gear and there’s no such thing as pay2win in WoW
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I really think this argument is stalemate until “pay to win” is properly defined.
My definition of pay to win would be simply the ability to spend in real life money to progress my in game characters power or progression. And yes in ways wow does now fall within that region. In almost all P2W games the non paying players can still farm the items required at a far slower rate, just like in WoW although the rate isn’t that much slower in wow tbf on them and you also cant get that much ahead in wow with gold only. Some games such as DF1 brought out a minigun that was only available to obtain through a real money purchase and that is 100% pay to win. Wow you can get a little edge for a short time perhaps, maybe a little longer with the new crafting system but it would be a staggered edge between raid and content releases I would think?
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