9800s are Ryzen 7 right? Are they outright better for wow? Or did you mention getting one so as to not spend 300 more on the 9?
better for gaming in general
i believe theyâre the number 1 gaming cpu at the moment.
Is it cos wow favors single core use? Thanks a lot, that was super useful info!
donât quote me on this, however i think majority of games are optimized for single core.
I play escape from tarkov
and had to upgrade my Mobo and cpu because that game is so badly optimized and is heavily CPU intensive
the upgrade from a 5 years old i9 9th gen to the 9800x3d gave me pretty much 4 times the performance.
however how does 9800x3d compare to the 9950 that i donât know.
9800x3d vs 9950x3d, to be accurate. Shopped around a bit but cant find anything without a million caveats
Yes. WoW is mostly singlethreaded (ui, combatlog, addons, lua stuff in general), GPU stuff is multithreaded.
The 9950X3D is a CPU for productive apps.
If you mostly game than there is no reason to get anything other than the 9800X3D.
Most games use like 2-4 threads. Some 6+. Quite alot are bottlenecked on one thread though.
Even newer games like Dragonâs Dogma 2, Monster Hunter Wilds (same engine btw), MS Flight Sim, Total War games, Baldurs Gate 3 (in the city hub) and so on.
What do you mean?
Every page Ive seen concluded that 9800 is a bit better but not by much, and then listed caveats. Wish Blizz had made a wow exclusive benchmark.
If only wow 9800x3d for sure, minor difference only, Thou if you already have 9950x3d
that will work fine too. Kinda up to you
They are about the same speed, itâs just about the price difference.
Why spend so much more for no performance gains?
anyway
i just logged just to show you and OP
i queued for a quick story mode undermine
FPS ~250 fps during boss fight
https://i.imgur.com/ImZRFHg.jpeg
my settings running a 4070:
i think the OP is going to be fine playing on a 144hz tv with a controller.
https://i.imgur.com/nMM0yws.png
https://i.imgur.com/xmsoNhf.png
https://i.imgur.com/hBwEP6a.png
Dunno, thought Id future-proof it? As I said in previous post, I know absolutely fa nothing nada zilch about PC parts.
You have to be joking or even trolling at this point
Just in case you are really that ignorant, i will explain it to you.
For every player in a raid, the FPS drops.
You are alone in the story mode.
You will not have even close to that FPS in a real raid, especially with 30man.
All the interactions with the addons, weakauras, buffs, debuffs, combatlog in general do no have to be processed in story mode as they have to in a raid with alot of real players.
Look at this 20man mythic Gallywix example:
Does this look anything like your story mode example?
Itâs up to you if you want to spend the extra money, if it doesnât hurt you, keep it.
I am not arguing with you about fps fluctuations in this game
Iâm well aware of that
However i did see the 400+ fps in certain locations that i had to turn on the fps foreground limit because it was causing lag on background videos.
You can come up with all different scenarios you want, i still insist that OPâs setup is beyond overkill given that he plans to play on a tv with a controller.
What youâre describing is game and addons limitations no amount of hardware you stick in there is going to change that.
5080 or 5090 both are way way strong enough to run wow in any form.
Also to be considered I wont raid. All I plan on doing is questing and at most do a few dungeons. I really like giving fellas 20 wolfâs teeth again and again.
If one or the other the 5080 should be plenty cause the times fps drops it cause cpu
9800 and 9950 is pretty much same in wow, thou if you have the 9950 already
just use it. Unless you want return it to save money and maybe upgrade later to
get an even smoother experience (by just swapping cpu).
Who knows maybe Blizzard adds more fixes to engine or something like they are doing
for the 11.2 patch too
https://www.wowhead.com/news/players-can-reduce-allied-spell-visuals-via-options-in-patch-11-2-377460
Then just go for a 5070 or 4070 Super and your good.
Just donât get a 8GB GPU.
Keep the CPU or get a cheaper one like 7800X3D.
32GB of RAM is fine.
Fps exceeding the refresh rate have their use when the fps dips for whatever reason.
E.g. 100 fps to a 60hz screen is better than just hitting 60 fps where a graphically intensive moment causes it to drop to 30âish, while the 100 fps dips to 60+ still maintaining the 60fps cap.
Acts as a buffer.
Thatâs not how it works at all.
If the game drops to the 30s, it drops to the 30s. No matter how high your cap is.
These days with variable refreshrate displays VRR, or G-Sync / Freesync / Adpative Sync, there is no need to uncap your FPS.
Unless of course you just want to generate some extra heat and make the GPU work harder for no gains
Practical example, i have a 144Hz G-Sync display, with Reflex enabled, that caps me to 138Hz to have that small âbufferâ.
In a game like WoW where my framerate ranges from like 30s worst case (raid, world events) to 138 (cap), G-Sync makes all the difference.
Now obviously you want to have the FPS near or at the cap as much as possible for the best experience.
30ish FPS just feels like playing in slow motion, even 60 does feel bad.
For me the minimum to enjoy a game, even WoW, is at 80-90ish FPS.
Lately iâve been experimenting with Lossless Scaling (was on steam sale) and have to say that i did not expect it to work that well.
Only if you enable adaptive mode though.
So adaptive mode set to a 138 FPS target.
This means it has a variable multiplier for framegen, just as much as is needed to hit the target.
If you have real 138 FPS it wonât do anything, unlike a fixed x2 (or higher) multiplier which will always half your FPS at cap (69, nice) in this case.
I have been using this in raids and some dungeons where i canât reach my cap without FG, like Floodgate.
Why you calling me out like this?