Wow Value for money

You can buy a disk on Xbox too, nothing stopping you buying games the traditional way. If you don’t fancy buying them you can get game pass, even trying them, if you decide you want to keep it buy it.
Game saves via the cloud are free on xbox, and you can also have them on your console and PC.
Wow has microtransactions too because they know people have sunk 100’s days into the game and they can bleed the player base for even more money.
Activision blizzard are legendary for adding loot boxes to there games. On the same level as EA.
Don’t you remember the RMAH on Diablo 3 where they took a cut of every sale?
Or all the extra packs in Hearthstone? Or Overwatch loot boxes?
The latest games to got added to gamepass were Yakuza zero, Dragon quest 11 and Battle toads. Zero loot boxes. Oh lets not forget Jedi fallen order got added with zero microtransactions.
I can give you far more examples of Blizzard milking its player base than Microsoft have. I can play any first party microsoft studios game on release day, included in the subscription price.

If i don’t fancy subbing every month and Elders scoll 6 is released straight to game pass. Pay £10 and play it there instead of spending £50+ for the physical version.

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Any game that gives you fun for an amount of money that YOU think is worth paying for that fun, is good value for money imo. :blush:

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No. It is because WoW’s subscription model ignores inflation. Even Netflix knows they need to keep up with inflation and so their prices go up, with the monthly sub being raised by around $1 each year. Even if you bought the entire shop, you’d still be spending less than what the game would cost if the sub kept up with inflation (it’ll be around $21 now).

I own Diablo 3 on the PS4, can’t relate to this stupid garbage. There’s a reason why I didn’t get Diablo 3 on the PC until it was almost free.

Rotten. I don’t play either of these games.

Just don’t complain in a few years, mate. Currently, Gamepass isn’t profitable at all. Microsoft is sinking money into it to expand the install base. It’s more or less the tactic used by Epic, with giving you free games all the time. Halo Infinite will have microtransactions, so the screwing might start sooner than you expect.

With Netflix, as with Steam the benefit was that you got a more convenient deal than pirates. However with games, as with streaming services, we’re quickly going back to pirates getting the better deal. Denuvo is working on DRM to prevent you from “cheating” in singleplayer games, because microtransactions in singleplayer will become the norm. This means that always-online for singleplayer games will also become the norm and when the authentication servers die, so does your game.

I own AC Odyssey legally. Twice - on Steam and on Epic. And I’m playing it cracked and with cheats to fix the broken exp curve that was deisged to get you to buy microtransactions. In a singleplayer game.

Game pass will take away the ownership of games, and then bank on microtransactions. It’ll take a few years of sunken costs - MS can afford it for the billions they will rake in profits. EA and Ubisoft both launched their own subscription services before gamepass. Why do you think they did that? Because they’re nice? Publishers are working on making mtx in singleplayer games the standard. Game Pass is working towards the same goal. You think Microsoft was blind to Ubi and EA showing more than half their revenue is from microtransactions?

Come on, mate.

At this point I’m just going to ignore you as you are just plain wrong.

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I’m assuming you’re not old enough to remember the old generation of consumer advocates we had. You know, the ones who fought against online codes in games. Not even this always online garbage. Hell, I remember the outrage against Steam. Publishers have been wanting to remove your ownership of games for a long, long time. If you want to use GamePass - go on ahead, it’s your prerogative. Just like it’s everyone’s prerogative to buy lootboxes and be an enabler of microtransactions. Remember - you’re always voting with your wallet. That’s the only vote that counts. And GamePass subscribers are voting against gamers’ right to own their games.

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Too bad 95% of the offers is not so great games.

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Only 180? Casual :smiley:

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WoW is good for this money, but server quality in recent years dropped so bad that i had better experience on private servers in 2010, this is the only complaint about Blizzard technical quality from me.

I’m not really a fan of NG+. I like playing it on NG+0, to have a better power progression. I’ve probably put over 500 hours into Bloodborne, most of it on new characters.

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The subscription model is definitely not value for money, at the end of bfa we were paying to log on and farm raids from 2012 for mounts and stuff. I think the actual expansion payment is very fair though.

You want to know which games have the best value for how much they cost? Sierra’s City Building Games: Pharaoh, Zeus and Poseidon, Emperor, Caesar. Cost me about, what, 50 euros for the entire collection back in the day in marks? Been playing them for 20 years and they never got old.

Have it before sl release and got bored after month yes there are 100 games but i tried 10 i liked and srarted exping alts in prepatch because i got bored of it

Yet you are still here…interesting

Because I have the ability to play more than one game.

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