I only play World of Warcraft myself, but I like to keep updated with the gaming industry in general.
With the launch of the new gen consoles and games, it got me thinking about what we as WoW players recieve for our money. Don’t come at me for saying this but I think WoW is the best game for value of money
I go despair looking at paying 70 dollars for a base game now and then paying for all kinds of DLC, your season pass, your adverts inside of games, your FIFA manipulation with gambling, paying for save slots etc,
WoW you pay for your expac every couple of years and your sub and that’s it.
Ah yes. That £120/€150 per year for one content patch per 6 months is so much cheaper than all these. If you pay your sub with gold it’s cheaper sure otherwise not really.
WoW’s value for money is pretty great. Yeah, many live games don’t have a subscription, but they harass you all the time with monetization, lootboxes, locking your rewards behind a paywall. When you think of it, WoW comes pretty cheap. Sure, they have the occasional 6 month sub bonus and I don’t mind that, but the game is the best value for money MMO out there right now.
Take Warframe for example - Warframe costs me more a month than WoW. Sure I don’t spend any of that money, but… someone does. Someone is spending more than $15 a month just so I can play conveniently Warframe. But even that comes with its own inconveniences and pressures. You can’t open a Warframe screen and not be harassed to spend money. The game’s entire loot system is designed to get you to spend money. It is a constant bombardment of “GIVE US MONEY!”
I’m fine with paying a flat $15 and not be harassed and pushed around.
If you like the game, play it a lot and are having fun, then yes - it’s definitely value for your money. Many AAA games go for the €60-€70 mark, and give you 40-80 hours worth of gameplay.
If you level new chars and classes you haven’t played, and choose different leveling paths you can have a semi-unique experience with every one of them as well.
If you’re burnt out on WoW and are only playing out of habit, then perhaps not so much compared to the fun you could have in a completely new game.
There are many games from which you get excellent value for your money if they are to your liking. For example, I bought civilization 6 and then all the dlcs they launched, but I have about 3600 hours played in it over one year and a half, and I can’t say I am bored of it yet, and it still costed less than a WoW expansion + subscription cost. I also have Stellaris + all dlcs, and about 1000+ hours played, still not bored. Same for Total War: Warhammer 2. I also have a bunch of other games I got on sale on steam for prices of 15-20 euro and I played hundreds of hours. WoW too is one game with very good value for me, although not BfA or Legion but the expansions before those for sure, I played thousands of hours each of those expansions, for the price I pay for them it’s better value than most games.
so fortnite and fifa bad makes wow good? your standards are low.
with 12 euros a month you get 10 games a month FOREVER (bundle site) or unlimited games per month(‘‘rented’’) and they dont require 60 euro x8 (the wow expansions so far)
So for the same price as a wow subscription I can get Xbox game pass for pc or console and get access to over 200 games. Many of which have no loot boxes.
Yet here you are defending Blizz for “value for money” when for it to make it same value for money Activision blizz would need to have all there games included in the subscription model.
Game pass is an awful deal for gamers and it is awful for the games industry. You’re paying to not own any games. If I didn’t want to own games, I’d just pirate them, mate. The value for money on game pass is awful.
You don’t own wow either. Blizz can turn off the servers at any point and that’s WOW gone. You are buying an expansion then subscribing to play a game you already paid for.
Game pass you just subscribe. Like a game? Just buy it on sale. Much better deal.
You subscribe and lose all your collection when you unsub. You can see MS’s gameplan here - they lock you in for a year or two, where you get attached to your collection and then they start adding microtransactions to everything. You think $1 a month is profitable? Nah, it’s locking you in, and exploiting player’s attachment to games. This is but one more nail in the coffin of gamers owning their games.
Publishers have been trying to destroy your right to own the games you buy for over a decade. To me anyone subscribed to game pass can’t complain about lootboxes or anything. Because game pass is a much bigger problem.
Gamepass would be great if at $15 a month, you got $15 or $20 in MS store credit to spend on games as you want. Right now, you’re paying to not own games and pirates are getting a superior deal.
You mean how Netflix and spotify are locking you in with there subscription model?
And PC gamers have already been shafted when it comes to owning games as everything is digital and your licence can be removed at any point. Blizzard could turn round tomorrow and just ban your account, or shut down the servers and then what?
If you want to own games fully I suggest you buy disc versions. But claiming Gamepass is bad value for money is insane. It’s the same cost as a WOW subscription, Netflix , Amazon prime, Spotify and it will soon be adding Xcloud to the service.
Really can’t believe you are still defending a subscription money to access a game you spend £40 just to buy the expansion.
When you unsub from those, you don’t lose hundreds of hours of progress you’ve sunk into games. I still keep the first character I made on Bloodborne, one with 180 hours on it.
This is why you should own your games. Not digitally. Digitally you own them only if you buy them through GoG. Gamers sold their rights for convenience, they can’t really complain publishers are exploiting them. Gamepass is selling the little they have left.
It is $1/month right now, so the value is good, but the service itself is rotten. Anyone who thinks game pass is good for gamers is simply wrong. MS will lock you in, get you attached to your saves and your games, knowing you won’t unsub and lose access to thousands of hours of game progress and then, they’ll add microtransactions. Businesses know once you’re locked in, the can start messing with you. Once you’re invested in product or brand, that’s it, you’re finished as a customer.
At least on the PS4 and the PS5, you buy a disk and it has the game on it and you actually own it. This is worth spending premium. On PC, thanks to Steam, game ownership is more or less dead. People argue Epic vs Steam and in my opinion both are equally bad for games.