Wpvp - for REAL veterans

They do and they don’t, they never really read realm forums in the first place, some trusted posters did and passed on anything that was worthwhile and not a dumpster fire up the chain…
If you want blizz to read forums posts go to the suggestion forums where at least there are out lying members of the dev team (read interns) who’s job it is to browse them periodically and filter them back.

Buhuu mean horde make game not fun. Stop being such a victim you loser. Horde also get steamrolled by big groups of alliance rolling through zones. This is just like the “opposite faction are corpse camping douchebags and mine is not” fallacy.

If anything makes that true it is you people spreading the negativity about alliance pvp abilities and making people chose horde for wpvp.

There is no crying from my side. I’m just telling you to stop being a baby and start doing what you can to fix your own situation. Right now you’re wallowing in self pity because “muh horde pvp/population advantage”.

Bringing up that I’m horde and rogue is irrelevant because you as an alliance mage also have certain situations where your race-class combo dominates. So do all class and race combinations.

My point is that you should stop whining and take it into your own hands to make the best of the situation, instead of being a whiny brat on the forum.

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just cancel your subscription.

I literally said that Alliance does the same thing as Horde but in smaller numbers but in a different topic. It doesnt mean that the way the game is now isnt unplayable lol. And yes you are crying over other people crying.

This is exactly what classic players want.
BFA sucks, Classic rules. BFA players are toxic, Classic has best community.
LOL
#NoChanges

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I played in vanilla on a medium pvp server (with the standards back then), which wasn’t anywhere near this much activity in wpvp.

I think it’s awesome though - as long as you’re pvp specced. Boring as hell with a pve spec though. Still hoping for a 2h sword from MC to be able to raid as arms so I can do both, but wpvp as fury is just hopeless sometimes. (Using Earthshaker for wpvp atm, as pve dual-wield fury spec)

I got r9 in vanilla, and had 2 other lvl 60s as well back then. Got 2.4k (not in bfa) in 2s and 3s on retail and the arena master title as well. I’m no stranger to pvp.

But to introduce BGs is something I think wouldn’t “destroy” wpvp, it would more have a stabilizing effect on the larger servers. So instead of seeing 120 of the opposite faction in that anonymous raid wpvp nonsense (yes, it’s nonsense - no more skill involved than killing a boss in mc), it’d thin out to perhaps max one 40-man raid.

Popular raid evenings would however regardless have that many players blocking the way, due to the shared goal of actually doing the raid, with some just waiting a bit before starting (especially the ones that can clear it in a very short time, they’ve got time to spare anyway).

I’m definitely for BGs being released sooner than expected, despite having said all of that about wpvp. I love it. But I want it to be less anonymous and more “fight to the death” type of combat. (I’ll hunt everything and everyone once I can swap over to arms, that’s for sure)

While reliving the phases of releases similar to vanilla, I personally think it has already been changed so much (especially the repercussions of layers, layers can rest in the deepest parts of hell and stay there for all eternity), that bringing more stability is now better for everyone.

People are more entitled today then back in the day, zero tolerance for adversity. The population on these forums is quite low so it is easy recognising the same individuals.

Do some post history checking and it is the same people moaning in thread after thread. A vocal minority of entitled whiners trying to change the game to fit them instead of adjusting to the game.

Yes, because most people that are unhappy with the state of the game just cancel their subscriptions and dont write on forums.

Lol “most people” got ANY kind of data on that? No you do not.
People are still complaining about overcrowded servers.

Make a valid argument or gtfo

I said most people that are unhappy just cancel the subscription instead of writing on forums. I never said most people cancel the subscription or whatever you understood. I know 6 people who already quit and a few that are thinking about quitting if the gameplay wont get better in a week. And they never posted anything on forums. And you yourself said there is only a few people complaining about it on forums. So this is my data. Read carefully before reacting please.

World PvP is epic. Some zones are Horde-dominated, in some Alliance reigns supreme. In some situations, you need two raids to survive; in some, group of 5 can stand its ground. This adds a layer of complexity and chaos into the game.

Sure, you can’t “just do a dungeon” anymore. You can’t just log on your lvl 50 and “quest a bit”. But that’s the price to pay for the epic World of WARcraft.

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