WTB original wolk with RDF

Meanwhile lfg chat full of Lf mage for aoe Farming dungs messages is not

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Learn to use chat filtering addons.

Start your own group. With black jack, and hoo… Death knights.

I love the retail approach of “give us a tool”. Meanwhile retail LFG and chat channels were rendered un-useable due to people selling boosts for years and they’ve had to add entirely new channels for that and ban selling boosts in LFG tool.

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I did. Had to read all the messages anyway. What was your point again?

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So you won’t buy the double spec until Ulduar right ?

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I would suggest that most RDF supporters are current retail players, so might not hand around on Classic , but will return to retail.

RDF killed the game last time when it was originally introduced, it hemorrhaged the players base turning Classic into the Retail game of today , more of a single player game with a bit of online player interraction.

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I play retail currently - RDF is awful. LFG is worse in some ways. The convenience of building groups and teleporting around to your destination instantly means people tend to just give up after 1 wipe, even if they don’t know the strategy themselves. Lower Karzhan on M+ is a toxic wipefest because retail players who’ve never done it don’t know the opera events and try to wing it, and those mechanics are extremely punishing. they wipe and leave.

They even removed mechanics entirely, like the ghost/curse from huntsman. The solution to that mechanic was the player who has a ghost on their back says in party “I have ghost” and they get dispelled. But no. Too hard to actually communicate, just leave group instead. So blizz removed it. It’s pathetic.

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I simply wont play it. And just play live.

theres no point playing a reforged version of these expansions. Its annoying, its rushed. The pace is off and their just blasting through expansion content without fixing any of the glaring problems with dead servers. Pvp servers being completely one sided.

with 2 hour queues on Gehenass, i don’t think anyone will mind.

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I doubt anyone will.

But blizzard arent doing it justice snd its beyond a factor where the nostalgia can sell it to me.

lol, it’s a reforged version because Vanilla/Classic players are crying to finaly get that.
This community who has nothing to do in this game are ruining the experience of pro Wotlk players.

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I believe you are correct on that.

So very true.

Lol no. From the very beginning of when people started to scream for classic all the way til it’s release people wanted it for the very reason to be able to play the old expansions just as they were.

Uhm no we wont. I’ve already canceled my two subs. I know of others who have done the same already, and trust me, more will follow in the months to come.

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i dunno … when i played WOTLK when it was new…

99% of my time was spent queuing in the RDF finding groups…

that was the WOTLK experience…

whatever classic is … is not the true experience.

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RDF never killed a game - actually I met lots of nice people with RDF.

Game declined due to few reasons.

  • Blizz introduced lots of difficulties so normal and HC dungeons(RFD) became faceroll and useless.
  • People evolved; its new generation of wow players. How hard you try it wont be same as old classic or wolk communities.
  • Skill level and amount of knowledge required is so much higher in new expansions compare to old expansions. Current mythic players faceroll any freaking old content like normal dungeons. Not everyone dedicated in game or have time to do that - thats why mmo genre is on verge of dieing.
    -GREED : boosting, RMT, game tokens, exclusive game shop; all are indirectly official and blizz cant stop it now. It isnt same company which was passinate about making great games - people who did great stuff; those are already left sinking ship.
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Ye, it really didn’t. Keep telling yourself that.

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Even assuming that you won’t re-activate your subs (which I’m sure you will), that means you weren’t all that interested in LK and would’ve probably quit after 1 month anyway … after all the expansion wasn’t Wrath of the Random Dungeon Finder

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Blizzard had to nerf heroics in cataclysm because RDF puggers had difficulties doing them, then they had to make a harder difficulty later on (mythic and mythic+) because everyone complained that heroics were too easy (due to RDF).

skill level in itself doesnt hurt the game. New generation of wow players have only played with RDF, thus expecting this easy mode tool to carry them around(and the reason why the game has gotten new harder difficulties).

Its the same reason why LFR was created: People complained that raiding was too hardcore and “for the elite”, thus a tourist mode was created. Then normal became the “easy mode”, and later heroics became “easy”. Its an endless loop. People want to reach the higher level without committing to it, thus hurting the content itself, diluting it.

I would say the RDF mechanics played a major role in the decline of wow playerbase over the years.

Difficulty is a nonsense topic.
When the game was growing, that meant there was balanced mix of people who had been playing for years and brand new players at the same time.
It was neither RDF or new players fault that old content became irrelevant and they had to be in those heroics with experienced players.
That isn’t an issue today, if Cataclysm was to come out.

No it wasn’t RDF got release during ICC. if you levelled using RDF, you missed 75% of the expansion.

Maybe try it this time without RDF